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The opinion regarding not replacing Aiton or Sinfield was that their deciding to leave was not expected or planned for as they came as a shock.
We seem to be unlucky that Falloon just hasn't had a good go of it through injury or lack of form, This in turn has led to Burrow yet again playing a huge string of games at hooker which leads to us having small men to cover.

As I have said elsewhere we really need to sign a top class hooker for 2017 and if possible an organising HB and re sign Ferres if we can.
Regarding departures Achurch is reportedly a big one but I also think we need to let go of one of Delaney or JJB and if we signed a good HB and i'd want to move Burrow to a coaching role with the youngsters/U19.

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Quote: Biff Tannen "I agree on JJB, the guy is giving his all as ever but is running on fumes now and doesn't have much left in him. Imo its very harsh to call time on McGuire yet. He has played some of the best rugby of his career over the last few years and has only just returned from injury into a side that is out of form, out of confidence and all over the shop, not really much he can do when his pack are being over run every game.

Its very easy to start writing off half the team as done or not good enough when you go through such bad spells as we are right now but i think the problems run much deeper as a collective team and a club than singling out current individual abilities and performances.'"


Fair enough, but McGuire's career has been mainly supporting breaks and gassing people.

He's never had a kicking game to write home about and he's not a particularly creative player.

Plus he's 34 now and not getting any faster - and his knees are screwed - much like JJB.

Again - totally appreciate the commitment and even the absolute need to pull a wage - but id much like to see my heroes of RL not hobbling around Leeds in the next 10+ years because their bodies fell apart...

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Quote: krisleeds "Add to that, with all respect to their commitment, McGuire and JJB are done.'"


How can you say that. Strange to select these two out of the under performing squad.

McGuire has only played 3 or 4 games this year and last season was one of the best if not the best. JJB returned from serious injury in March and has been one of our best performers and top tackler. He must be averaging around 40 tackles per game (many one on one) and despite missing the first part of the season is ahead of the likes of Bateman and only 23 behind Chris Hill in overall 10th spot. Someone unfairly commented that JJB is running on fumes.....well he could do to waft a few few of these Castrol R type fumes around the dressing room and get some more energy into his younger team mates.

Of course we have to plan for their replacements but there are several others that I would be looking to replace before theses two.

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Quote: Juan Cornetto "How can you say that. Strange to select these two out of the under performing squad.

McGuire has only played 3 or 4 games this year and last season was one of the best if not the best. JJB returned from serious injury in March and has been one of our best performers and top tackler. He must be averaging around 40 tackles per game (many one on one) and despite missing the first part of the season is ahead of the likes of Bateman and only 23 behind Chris Hill in overall 10th spot. Someone unfairly commented that JJB is running on fumes.....well he could do to waft a few few of these Castrol R type fumes around the dressing room and get some more energy into his younger team mates.

Of course we have to plan for their replacements but there are several others that I would be looking to replace before theses two.'"


Because everyone expected McGuire to be able to turn it all around on his own - and was probably rushed back.

That amount of pressure is not good for anyone - let alone an injury prone player.

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Quote: krisleeds "Because everyone expected McGuire to be able to turn it all around on his own - and was probably rushed back.

That amount of pressure is not good for anyone - let alone an injury prone player.'"


Any player returning from a long term injury will take time to gain match fitness and form. McGuire deserves this time and has a few season left him yet. Same goes for JJB although he shouldn't have to be doing other peoples tackling at his age.

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Quote: Juan Cornetto "But you are ignoring that it was HKR that sacked Chester so the tangible example is HKR who may now be regretting sacking Chester.'"


Unlikely there will be many if any regretting the pro-active approach taken by Hudgell tonight after they destroyed their former coach's new club away from home.

Both Hull KR and Wakefield's record since changing coach far better than Leeds' who are stubbornly sticking with theirs.

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