Think they played with more determination last night,but we're just too lightweight in every area,McDermott should be coaching them to go back to basics,still throwing ball about like we're top of the league,far too many simple errors,agree it was a poor Wigan side that beat us,it's obvious baldwinson is out of Leeds.this season is over,prob end up season bottom of the league which is a fair reflection on how we've played.just use the middle eights to get back to winning ways,it isn't going to be easy and now let's see what GH is made of in response to this season.squad clear out is a must.needs a big response for next season.

Sadly I too have to agree: he has been found wanting this season.

As for Sutcliffe to centre...he has been tried there and was far from impressive; ditto at FB. Watkins has also been tried at FB and although inconsistently good on attack he was pretty poor on defence. Golding is simply too lightweight.

I guess Watkins is worth another run at FB. To fill the centre spot (with the return of Briscoe and Hall) I would be more inclined to try Handley there rather than Sutcliffe.

Keinhorst IMO is a better second rower.

I still think centre would be his best position but offered fullback as an alternative. I actually would prefer to move Watkins to fullback where I think he would regain his attacking flair with the extra space and I have said this previously on several occassions

But it doesn't appear the coach sees it that way although I'm sure you're both still right.

Hardaker is still Leeds' best known option at full-back and as you never used to tire of telling the board the best way to regain form is to keep playing in 1st grade.

Our problems run much deeper than Hardaker/Watkins non exsistent form imo once again we are in the game then melt away on the back of conceding poor penalties & shocking defending
It may well be that certain players want out but the clear out should include all the Coaches/Staff imo because its obvious whatever they are instructing its getting ignored/nowhere near working.