We need to stick by him! We can't go from winning the treble one year to losing 3 lads to retirement and however many to injurys doesn't mean he isn't fit for the job. We have recruited poorly imo signing past it Aussies and useless backs. End of the day we are too big of a club to not be contending for the grand final and I'm confident that in a year or two we will be back up there with the best!

Fair enough, but McGuire's career has been mainly supporting breaks and gassing people.

He's never had a kicking game to write home about and he's not a particularly creative player.

Plus he's 34 now and not getting any faster - and his knees are screwed - much like JJB.

Again - totally appreciate the commitment and even the absolute need to pull a wage - but id much like to see my heroes of RL not hobbling around Leeds in the next 10+ years because their bodies fell apart...

How can you say that. Strange to select these two out of the under performing squad.

McGuire has only played 3 or 4 games this year and last season was one of the best if not the best. JJB returned from serious injury in March and has been one of our best performers and top tackler. He must be averaging around 40 tackles per game (many one on one) and despite missing the first part of the season is ahead of the likes of Bateman and only 23 behind Chris Hill in overall 10th spot. Someone unfairly commented that JJB is running on fumes.....well he could do to waft a few few of these Castrol R type fumes around the dressing room and get some more energy into his younger team mates.

Of course we have to plan for their replacements but there are several others that I would be looking to replace before theses two.

Because everyone expected McGuire to be able to turn it all around on his own - and was probably rushed back.

That amount of pressure is not good for anyone - let alone an injury prone player.

Any player returning from a long term injury will take time to gain match fitness and form. McGuire deserves this time and has a few season left him yet. Same goes for JJB although he shouldn't have to be doing other peoples tackling at his age.

Unlikely there will be many if any regretting the pro-active approach taken by Hudgell tonight after they destroyed their former coach's new club away from home.

Both Hull KR and Wakefield's record since changing coach far better than Leeds' who are stubbornly sticking with theirs.