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Quote: Gotcha "I don't think it is so "in the know", nobody knows everything. The game is a community sport, and therefore the community are with these players and officials daily, and things do come out, long before official and that happens often.

For instance, yesterday I posted that two other players other than Baldwinson had also asked to be released from their contract. I know that as fact, as straight from players mouth. I also know as fact that the request initially was end of season, and since changed to sooner, and that Leeds turned down the requests. Hence why I refused to name the players, as talks were still ongoing, with the club trying to persuade otherwise.

I have since heard third hand, not fact, and therefore not really "in the know" that the club have now agreed to release, on the basis of a player they want to bring in. As one of the clubs after our player, also have a player Leeds want, they want our player to go there and arrange a swap. This though is third hand. And I guess this is what Frosties has also heard.

Putting things third hand, or indeed factual never really goes down well on hear, so I can understand the reluctance to name names.

Let me repeat though, the only factual I know is the two players asking to be released from contract.'"


That's a lot of hands, we still need names and Frosties to come back with the info he has.... It's frustrating when something gets mentioned and you have to guess, be far happier being told straight and being cock and bull than this, it looks more like you've heard a rumour yourself and not been told who.

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If Gale does come Cas can take their pick of Burrow, McGuire and Sutcliffe. Simply not good enough.
Saying that if we get relegated would Gale want to come to Leeds I think not.
It is now a real possibility we could go down.

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Quote: FlexWheeler "T - 9 days to go before the deadline is up. If theres no announcement that ''shocks everyone'' in SL, then you lose all credibility.'"


Surprise surprise, not a dicky bird.

Here's an idea frosties, either name your source, the actual news itself...or just shut up.

Credibility is gone.

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Quote: FlexWheeler "Surprise surprise, not a dicky bird.

Here's an idea frosties, either name your source, the actual news itself...or just shut up.

Credibility is gone.'"


I'm sure Frosties posted in good faith on what he had heard ( as he had with the Brierley saga. Cough! ) ....and it all makes for a more entertaining forum. It would be a hell of a lot more boring if the likes of Frosties didn't contribute their grapevine stories....even if they do turn out to be a pile of shiite. !!!!

The problem is it is only a forum for a bunch of nobodies (apart from me and maybe Printer of course) so why the excessive subterfuge at times in these days of twitter and social media?
If you're worried about breaking a confidence then you have already done that by posting anything at all that initiates the rumour mill in the first place.....surely?

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The problem with this stuff is the certainty with which some people post what are clearly rumours/general chatter. Others then go too far in questioning whether they actually know the real goings on behind the scenes, which leads to a defensive response from the original poster. And on and on it then rolls.

The rumours are part of the fun. If people would say things with less certainty there wouldn't be a problem.

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Quote: BrisbaneRhino "The problem with this stuff is the certainty with which some people post what are clearly rumours/general chatter. Others then go too far in questioning whether they actually know the real goings on behind the scenes, which leads to a defensive response from the original poster. And on and on it then rolls.

The rumours are part of the fun. If people would say things with less certainty there wouldn't be a problem.'"


Bingo!!!

Nobody really gets ridiculed for sharing rumours they've heard, unless they're claiming them as 'fact' or 'from the horses mouth' or any other term to make it sound 'in the know' - like you say, it's the degree of certainly that some individuals try and portray.

They'd have more credibility if they shared the info and gave the reasons why they thought its credible. Then, if and when it either does or doesn't come off, they can comment on how it all eventually played out.

The problem is, some people desperately want to look 'in the know', so throw out the rumours as certainties, with caveats like 'but I can't say where it's come from or who it involves' and 'it might never come out in public', and then when nothing appears, they give no further comment...

It's all good fun though!

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