I think ferres will come good,just joined a team that's struggled all season,look to next year,need to get stevie ward fully fit,Delaney and JJB been great servants to the club but now time to thanks and move on,need a hooker who can play full 80,think it may be time to call time on a few others maybe as well,Walters def got to go no disrespect but not good enough,falloon not made any impact,maybe some big decisions have to be made(has McGuire,briscoe,Ablett had there time?) can't wait 8 weeks for players to get fit especially when over 30.need to look at this as the older players get the harder it is to shake off injuries.

Is he anymore a liability than JJB has been throughout his career? or that Ablett is most weeks? or for that matter Bailey when he was here?

I think Ferres is unlucky at times. I've certainly seen him pinged this season for things that other players have spent 80 minutes getting away with. He does appear to have something of a target on his back with some officials, Thaler in particular.

He's an abrasive character and a bit of a WUM on the field, in much the same way Ablett is. Given we don't get any of that from our front-row any more it's nice to see a back-rower prepared to have a dig and get under people's skins.

I think Ablett has vastly improved his discipline over the last few years but I was never a fan of the niggly stuff he used to get up to. I don't think JJB should be classed with Ferres or Bailey (the latter I couldn't really give to hoots about).

He is far more obvious and gives them away in crucial sets of play compared to any other player

It wasn't exactly the niggle I was referring to, but more the annoying penalties.