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Quote: tvoc "Injuries or not if Achurch is ever allowed to pull on a Leeds 1st grade shirt again after his display V Hull than it will almost beggar belief. At least when you know you are down to twelve defenders you can make adjustments.'"


I cannot ever remember seeing a Leeds player hide as effectively as Achurch did in his last 20 minutes on the pitch last week, and thats after his earlier defensive "non efforts" offset all his previous defensive work.

He stood in the centre and on the wing. He expertly positioned himself behind the play the ball and with other attackers between him and the ball to avoid receiving it. When he did receive it he offloaded it like a frightened child in the playground. At one stage instead of heading North/South to get back into the defensive line he set off towards the bench as if begging to come off.

I suppose it was equally remarkable that it took so long for him to be hauled off, and that it considered tactically wise to leave an unused player on the bench; when that player would have contributed more in those 20 minutes by simply standing in the defensive line where you would expect a forward to stand.

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Looking at the tries conceded our defence is still very much a joke. I don't care how many injuries we have, or who is on the field, some of the feeble efforts (in particular players not even getting into a position to defend) are appalling.

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I'd also add that Golding should never have been asked to take the drive on our line that led to Sts try. A heads up play from the acting half would have been a dummy and run for himself, not passing to one of the smallest players in a position where all that would happen is him getting mullered.

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Quote: BrisbaneRhino "Looking at the tries conceded our defence is still very much a joke. I don't care how many injuries we have, or who is on the field, some of the feeble efforts (in particular players not even getting into a position to defend) are appalling.'"


This is the most annoying thing for me, the defensive structure is all over the shop and has been since Widnes away. Its been mentioned a lot but the ruck is really terrible and needs fixing up badly.As poor as our attack has been for the most part, if we had been better in this area we wouldn't be down where we are right now imo.

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What struck me was that all it took for Sts to break the line was a smaller player to run towards the Leeds defence then stop and start again. The defence looked like it was playing musical statues.

As an aside a friend at work watched the full game yesterday and he was raving about Lilley. Mind you as a Sharks fan for the past few years he has been watching Jeff Robson at 7.

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Quote: BrisbaneRhino "What struck me was that all it took for Sts to break the line was a smaller player to run towards the Leeds defence then stop and start again. The defence looked like it was playing musical statues.

As an aside a friend at work watched the full game yesterday and he was raving about Lilley. Mind you as a Sharks fan for the past few years he has been watching Jeff Robson at 7.'"


Its selfish defending, or at least self-preserving defending that is costing us
Players are pushing off far too early and asking far too much of their inside man, often overcommitting to an outside threat
Worrying thing is its players who are usually quite reliable in defence, there has been a lot of time this season when I have been shouting 'where is he going!' in Ablets direction, who seams to think his inside defenders are superhuman

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