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I think a major issue is the decision to scrap the Reserve Grade Competition and not have dedicated Coaching at that level.

You can run that team to the same drills and comms as the 1st team so people can slot in and out with ease.

Jordan Baldwinson should have had a game at 1st Grade for the Rhinos by now I agree. He is stoked to be signed up with the Rhinos too. I hope they keep him and give him his opportunities.

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This could be our most important game for some time if we loose tonight or at least but in a decent performance,where do we go from here?

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The only way is up, bayyybii

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Quote: Barrie's Glass Eye "It's an interesting question isn't it, I remember Salford fans the other year suggesting that they went for loans because a lot of their U19s were in their first year and not physically up to SL. So that could be a factor.

It's also different blooding someone like Handley on the wing at 18 compared to asking a lad of the same age to do a stint at prop.

So to give you an answer, it'd have to be someone physically big/strong enough, preferably who has spent some time with the first team. Would that mean Cam Smith, Sam Hallas and that Polish youg man whose name I can't pronounce would be next in line? Do we need forwards or backs right now?'"



Let me tell you. Cam Smith has a contract that is to train with the first team, but that he will play a maximum of 8 academy games this year. The rest of the time he will be training with first team and building up, as they want him ready for next season for super league. I don't understand this, for me if you are getting him ready he needs to play games, and the odd substitute appearance now is needed, if they are planning for next season.

The coaches I was speaking to last night were saying how the championship is a physical tough competition, but a very slow one. They were saying the biggest difference for a youngster stepping up to Super League is not the physicality but the speed of the game. Both coaches said the academy was faster than the championship, so did not see the benefits of playing championship rugby.

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Quote: Gotcha "Let me tell you. Cam Smith has a contract that is to train with the first team, but that he will play a maximum of 8 academy games this year. The rest of the time he will be training with first team and building up, as they want him ready for next season for super league. I don't understand this, for me if you are getting him ready he needs to play games, and the odd substitute appearance now is needed, if they are planning for next season.

The coaches I was speaking to last night were saying how the championship is a physical tough competition, but a very slow one. They were saying the biggest difference for a youngster stepping up to Super League is not the physicality but the speed of the game. Both coaches said the academy was faster than the championship, so did not see the benefits of playing championship rugby.'"


I agree with you, if they think he's good enough to train with the first team, and he clearly didn't look out of his depth on Boxing Day then the odd sub game would do him good, as would imo a loan, because how much will he learn playing against his peers who pretty much to a man he is bigger/faster/stronger than.

I would also be tempted to agree with you regarding the pace of the championship, it would explain why props (Hill, Walmsley even Yates) were able to step up, but we don't see many pivots or ball handlers make the jump. Jamie Ellis and Finn are the most recent successful examples and neither have set the league alight.

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