Ryan Hall looks to be a shadow of his former self. How many Huddersfield points were as a direct result of his defensive lapses, and that bombed try late on says it all about his game at the moment. Even his occasional runs down the wing seldom see him attempt one of his powerful hand offs, and instead it's usually a blind lob back infield in the hope that someone will catch it.

It can only improve, and a win is a win at the end of the day. Although the more I see of Gallway, the more I think he's an Aussie Ian Kirke.

Leeds were stale in attack and looked shaky in defense the few times Huddersfield attacked the line. I don't see where wins are going to come from with the injuries and the level of performance being displayed. Only Wakefield and Hull kr seem potentially weaker. Everyone else is strong.

The injury to McGuire has exposed a big lack of direction and creativity in the centre. Sutcliffe has been in the past a supplement to mcguire/sinfield. A side act, not the main man. Lilley has played a handful of first team games. We are struggling massively in this area.

There's a good chance the next win may not come until the end of march. Next 3 are wigan saints and cas. Top 4 is going to become a bigger and harder task week by week now.

Wigan will finish top. Despite a few injuries and playing poorly they are 4/4 and have played last seasons super 8 teams. Devastating combo.

They've played 3 Super 8 teams so far (and Salford)

Yeah, so 3 out of their first 4 games have been super 8 teams, they've played poorly and they are 4/4. Pretty good recipe for finishing high up the ladder.

They did however play Catalans at home compared to us being away to them.

They did also play a Brough-less Hudds and only just edged them late on too.

Sometimes for all the recruitment, the planning, the training.....the timing of when you face certain teams can have a massive baring.

I'm not 'picking' on anyone. We are not in the school playground. Defending a HB for a few conversions is desperate stuff. Burrows & Maguire exhibited brilliance at 19, Lilley nothing but mediocrity.
FWIW Hall was dreadful, the worst game I have seen him have play. But he has shown he is the WBW for many years. Hardaker is still mentally naïve but the best FB in SL. Neither of these going to prevent Leeds retaining their crowns. Having no 7&9 will.

I don't see Lilley's long term future at Leeds. I think he'll establish himself as a steady player then in a few years go to a wakefield or a hull KR. Potentially a team at the top end of the championship.

Had high hopes of Lilley.....sounds like the consensus is turning against him Things not looking quite so bright now for 2017.....unless we have signed Brierley of course

With our pack going backwards at a rate of knots, did Baldwinson get on tonight?

Jesus Christ! People on here see the likes of Luke Gale perform good several years AFTER he's left Leeds and question why we didn't keep him and give him a try and then turn around and write off Lilley after less than a dozen games at the age of 19. (Of which he's shown up well in pretty much each showing and it could've been a draw tonight without his goal kicking btw need I remind you of Hardaker vs Warrington)

FFS.

He's had some good touches here and there. Helping to set the try up against warrington, also tonights try and yes, he can kick a goal. But in reality I don't think he's got the potential to be good enough, good enough as in a haflback that can help a team to finals a trophies.