I think being a non-heartland club may be more beneficial for you! Recruitment may be difficult and as a result you are having to use first teamers and uni teams as parents wont event pretend they know enough to coach and as a result choose not to be involved (or maybe actually learn the game in order to coach). As a result you will get more knowledgable and coaches making objective decisions regarding junior player development. As a parent I had to frequently pull up a 'coach' and explain rules such as why quick taps couldnt be taken and even when a tackle was considered complete.

You do have to wonder what it is about coaches in union which make them much better than their counterparts in league (in general) - these coaches are also parents but are much more profesionsal in their role as a coach. They appear to have a much better knowledge about the rules of the game! Is this because they have to take an on-line test regarding the rules of the game and also attend a rugby child welfare course before even start to coach? All coaches in union must also have a basic level of coaching qualification, the last time I was involved in junior league club, I was told that a qualified coach merely had to be present after I 'raised concerns' - one qualified coach for three age groups (60 children on two full sized pitches).

I dont think that money is the main problem either, its that the junior governing body is constantly turning a blind eye to what goes on. I have heard comments that they need complete amateurs running clubs because they make so much money out of fining clubs. Another financial difference between the codes is in league clubs spend many hundreds of pounds on referees but in union coaches from one team often take on the roll (and provide coaching to both teams throughout play) saving money for coaching courses and developing skills. Parents are happy with this and dont wear rose tinted glasses - they arent allowed to! Any abuse from parents and they are sent from the pitch - if they dont leave the game is called off.

I do however think your last line is the most telling though 'We pay for coaching courses and the like out of our own money because its important to us as a club. Many don't'. For many parents (coaches), it is just a good excuse to get together and have a drink or two (or five).

It was Leeds' 7th WCC Final, Leeds recorded their lowest ever score (equal lowest try count, lowest goal count) while conceding their highest ever total (most tries against), goes without saying their biggest ever defeat in this fixture and by some considerable distance. Previous reversals were by 4, 8 and 8 - on Sunday by 34.

Over the course of eight days 16 - 94 (-7icon_cool.gif, you have to go back to the dark days of 1996 to find a bigger brace (-38 & -54 - home to Bradford then away at Wigan)

Rather factual post TVOC which will be deemed negative and against the spirit of being a true Leeds fan. You'll have torquemada81 denouncing you if you're not careful.

the tries are not their fault in so far as sutty can't help having one leg and lilley can't help their size ,
last year zak looked looked dangerous and sutty was good when fit and kev then played better than b4 his axing.

we've got away with 2 small hb and letting kev off tackling

to be proven if falloon and jjb can add anything (jjb only less likely than achurch to get injured)

last year we had a new angle of cuthbo but no organised moves.

in a speech jjb said last year was the coming together of what mcd had been putting in place previous years

so did they rely on jp and did they factor in garbutt arriving 14 games earlier than planned

was discussing on way to widnes how have been planless and idealess for years

even the 80s had the wall move William

We wernt very good in attack but you have to remeber some of these NRL defences are incredibly well drilled, there was a semi-final a few years back that finished 4-0 and that included Foran Pearce DCE and Maloney, so its hard to be too critical of our attack based on this game

The kick dint go where he wanted, the fullback was just working harder than everyone else just in case.
They may not be much fitter, but at the 50 min mark we had used one sub and I think NQL had used all of theres? Next year they definitely will be anyway as their subs are dropping from 10 to 8