A few observations to go along side Seth's and other's - The salary cap does have huge influence in terms of pool of top class players available to NRL v SL. Anyone who has spent time in Oz knows that Saturday mornings you will see all green spaces around in the suburbs are sports facilities and are full of youngsters enjoying a session of some sport training, skills sessions etc.- all year round! Parents spend their weekends ferrying kids to and fro. If not on these green bits then they are on the beach doing something else athletic. The kids are not ploughing through mud, freezing their little bums off, crying with pain when they get kicked, get a clod in the eye etc. Our kids are great and our parents, who do stand on the touchline shivering, are great BUT we can never compete with the conditions that our youngsters grow up in, learn skills and tactics in etc, and if they make it to the top in SL it is a special thing. In Oz it is not so surprising. In the UK the majority of youngsters, especially south of Yorkshire, of course, are probably either still in bed, playing with their phones or ipads or their interest in sport is confined to the overpaid, shamsters chasing a round ball around. This country's obsession with soccer, the size of the crowds, the vast amount of money invested in advertising, players, TV rights, the high focus on any related story etc etc is staggeringly incomprehensible. The virtual ignoring of RL, by comparison, is another factor.
Generally we are not on a level playing field with NRL except for the passion and desire shown by our best and most talented. Sadly Saints forgot that last night and KC's delusion probably added to that. He did, after all, look and sound as if he was about to open up at the Car Boot Sale!

It was Leeds' 7th WCC Final, Leeds recorded their lowest ever score (equal lowest try count, lowest goal count) while conceding their highest ever total (most tries against), goes without saying their biggest ever defeat in this fixture and by some considerable distance. Previous reversals were by 4, 8 and 8 - on Sunday by 34.

Over the course of eight days 16 - 94 (-7icon_cool.gif, you have to go back to the dark days of 1996 to find a bigger brace (-38 & -54 - home to Bradford then away at Wigan)

Rather factual post TVOC which will be deemed negative and against the spirit of being a true Leeds fan. You'll have torquemada81 denouncing you if you're not careful.

the tries are not their fault in so far as sutty can't help having one leg and lilley can't help their size ,
last year zak looked looked dangerous and sutty was good when fit and kev then played better than b4 his axing.

we've got away with 2 small hb and letting kev off tackling

to be proven if falloon and jjb can add anything (jjb only less likely than achurch to get injured)

last year we had a new angle of cuthbo but no organised moves.

in a speech jjb said last year was the coming together of what mcd had been putting in place previous years

so did they rely on jp and did they factor in garbutt arriving 14 games earlier than planned

was discussing on way to widnes how have been planless and idealess for years

even the 80s had the wall move William

We wernt very good in attack but you have to remeber some of these NRL defences are incredibly well drilled, there was a semi-final a few years back that finished 4-0 and that included Foran Pearce DCE and Maloney, so its hard to be too critical of our attack based on this game

The kick dint go where he wanted, the fullback was just working harder than everyone else just in case.
They may not be much fitter, but at the 50 min mark we had used one sub and I think NQL had used all of theres? Next year they definitely will be anyway as their subs are dropping from 10 to 8