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| Quote: Frosties. "Brierley....?'"
Can't see why we would want him, a downgrade on what we already have
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| Quote: Fallon "We would we ship him off? I think he's contracted for another two years (or is it just 1)? Either way he still has a lot to offer. Ok, defensively they accommodate him but every player has pros and cons - McGuire is petulant remember
Apologies, I was going to write a much longer post but work called and what I eventually wrote comes across as an attack on Burrow. As far as I know he is contracted until the end of 2017 and I would like to see him playing for Leeds for those two years and then move on to coach the next generation of Leeds players.
The issue is that Burrow doesn't seem to have a defined role in the team. He's not a first choice half back anymore but is excellent cover, far better cover than most teams have. He also isn't a conventional hooker, he can't put it in the defensive workload required of the position his passing from dummy half isn't quite as crisp as a specialist hooker. His size and speed does allow him to regularly beat the markers and create half breaks though. Reading interviews with him he also doesn't see himself as a hooker and is merely doing a job for us. This would suggest that he is now a back up player however he is consistently in the matchday seventeen.
This strategy is working for us at the moment as Burrow's pace is a powerful attacking option from the ruck against tired defences which outweighs the need for others to put in the tackles for him for roughly half the game. However if Falloon goes down with a long injury then Burrow will have to do the full 80 for a number of weeks putting massive strain on our forwards to do the defensive duties of another man. Also if the interchanges are reduced from ten to eight then this problem will be exacerbated and could spell the end of the interchange hooker role all together. Finally at Burrow's age (33) there's an ever increasing chance that his pace could dry up which would nullify his main strength as his size is not useful without speed as the gaps he can hit will be closed before he gets there.
I would like it if Burrow took a step back in 2017 and took on more of a mentor role, providing us with good cover for the half backs and hooker whilst allowing us to develop the likes of Lilley and Brady (and O'Brien from the Bulls if the rumours are true). I accept this is unlikely to happen though as Falloon is only on a one year deal so planning in advance with the hooking role is difficult.
To reiterate I do like Burrow, he has been one of my favourite players over the last few years and still has a lot to offer especially from a coaching perspective. He is a natural leader and when on form and used correctly can be a game winner. However with the way the game is changing and the talent coming through Burrow is in a bit of a strange place and we can't expect him to be an automatic pick in the seventeen.
Then again what do I know? I thought McGuire was finished in 2014 ![Wink icon_wink.gif](images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| Back on topic imo when they are all fit Sutty will be at 6 Ward at 13 and Cam Smith has at the very least 1/2yrs before he fully breaks through and at that time i'd expect to see him come off the bench/start in the SR ,Achurch will have departed by then and Jjb id 75% guess will be retired.
That leaves Delaney Abbo & Ferres as recognised SR's with Keinhorst/Walters as back up so there will be room if not there's still the loan option plus Cam will still only be 19.
Onto the HB debate by the start of 2017 i'd be surprised to see RB as 1st choice HB/9 cover in all honesty unless the Club decide to loan out Lilley for a full season to have him playing SL/Championship RL week in week out that leaves Mags(would 2017 be his last year as 1st choice?) Sutty and the "rumoured" Brierley.
Imo i think there's plenty of room for us to sign Brierley and i also think he'd fit in along with Sutty ,Lilley and looking further forward Whiteley.
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| Quote: rhinoms "Back on topic imo when they are all fit Sutty will be at 6 Ward at 13 and Cam Smith has at the very least 1/2yrs before he fully breaks through and at that time i'd expect to see him come off the bench/start in the SR ,Achurch will have departed by then and Jjb id 75% guess will be retired.
That leaves Delaney Abbo & Ferres as recognised SR's with Keinhorst/Walters as back up so there will be room if not there's still the loan option plus Cam will still only be 19.
Onto the HB debate by the start of 2017 i'd be surprised to see RB as 1st choice HB/9 cover in all honesty unless the Club decide to loan out Lilley for a full season to have him playing SL/Championship RL week in week out that leaves Mags(would 2017 be his last year as 1st choice?) Sutty and the "rumoured" Brierley.
Imo i think there's plenty of room for us to sign Brierley and i also think he'd fit in along with Sutty ,Lilley and looking further forward Whiteley.'"
In 2 years time you'd also have to wonder what condition Delaney would be in considering the toll it takes on his body to get through a season. Likewise I can't see Cam Smith getting decent game time until 2018 at best so still probably plenty of things to happen squad between now and then.
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| Printer-Yea bang on re-Delaney wrt Cam Smith i think he'll spend next year in the u19's with very ltd minutes at 1st team level if any then spend 2017 on loan anyway unless of course he hits the ground running ala Stevie Ward which imo he's capable of doing.
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| Quote: rhinoms "Printer-Yea bang on re-Delaney wrt Cam Smith i think he'll spend next year in the u19's with very ltd minutes at 1st team level if any then spend 2017 on loan anyway unless of course he hits the ground running ala Stevie Ward which imo he's capable of doing.'"
Cameron Smith has looked very good in the friendlies and I wouldn't be surprised if he came off the bench against say Hull KR or Widnes. Josh Jordan-Roberts is apparently another very good U19s back rower though I haven't seen much of him.
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