Over in NZ they have made massive strides to betting depression acknowledged. Sir John Kirwan fronted an advert; depression.org.nz/ and www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/ar ... d=10852127

Over in NZ they have made massive strides to betting depression acknowledged. Sir John Kirwan fronted an advert; depression.org.nz/ and www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/ar ... d=10852127

Wow. Simply wow.

It would be easy to lambast you for your comments but sadly your views are shared by many which is why mental illness still has such a stigma.

Exactly...there is still a long way to go. Many will still have to be careful before confessing their state of mind (and for many years yet to come it will remain too late for too many)

Hopefully, if a big fella like Bailey can admit to suffering depression, it might encourage others to seek help.

Spot on

Well said. who is Superted.... Is he a troll?
To simply define one event in someone's life (leaving Leeds) and suggest that this is the course of stress rather than depression and he should get a grip because this is real life is a massive oversimplification. Hope nobody Superted is close to ever suffers from depression as I fear for their future wellbeing.

Currently going through it myself to a point i very nearly didn't see 2016, on the highest dose of medication i can have and going through a CBT course.

It's very hard at times to articulate how you can be in a good place at one moment of your life to then go to hating every single second of it and wishing you wasn't here.

I've had a lot of support, quite humbling in fact and that has got me through it, I've been lucky though that i have a lot of friends that understand rather than judge.

You still get the 'snap out of it' comments as though it is a choice, if it was a choice why would i choose this pain for myself? If it was as easy as just snapping out it, i never woulf have snapped into it.

i applaud Bailey for coming out, as you do feel weak and flawed and ashamed admitting it, in his environment of machismo to, i imagine it to be harder still.

I applaud you too Wire Yed! Your thoughts and experiences are so well expressed. Good on you and all the best moving into the future - you and Bails! This is an issue that must be faced and the stigma erased. The ignorance , in the true meaning of the word, around mental health issues must be tackled just like the earth shuddering collisions that we so loved to see from Bails at his best.

After two cancer scares in the last 12 months (one still on-going but not such a worry now) I had my first ever full blown anxiety attack recently. F*** me! that was a surprise and a half. It's not in your head, it's a physical reaction to stress that you can't control (and I am very, very used to stress for several reasons). I genuinely thought I was dying. I am still having "aftershocks" which come on completely at random and scare the $h!t out of me. Depression is very similar in that in it's severe form manifests physically and is terrifying. It's the physical symptoms that most people don't even consider - it's not someone sat in a room feeling unhappy. I have a mate who I've worked with for 15 years and completely out of the blue he shut down. You would never in a million years think anything like that could happen to a guy like him and it did. He was off work for nearly three months. Thankfully he's recovered, but I now can see the parts of his personality (the drive, the commitmment to doing things right and the work ethic) that caused his issues when his job temprarily changed within the company.
More needs to be done.

Nope, I'm not a troll, just someone who's not afraid to voice an opinion on a touchy subject that is different to the majority....

For those having a dig - are you all saying you don't believe it ever happens? That there aren't instances of people claiming depression under false pretences and for a cynical gain?

I've been unfortunate enough to have family members and close friends legitimately suffer at the hands of mental illness - but I also know a number of people who have fraudulently used depression for a number of gains - time off work, benefits and even for sympathy.... Not too dissimilar to the utter scumbags who've falsely claimed to have other illnesses such as cancer..... In the real world, unfortunately it happens....

Don't let the thin air up on that moral high ground cloud your judgement - sometimes some people abuse the system and peoples goodwill - I've given my opinion based on personal knowledge and experience.

By that same principle had Ryan Bailey come out and said he'd been struggling with cancer you'd have placed the same level of suspicion on that revelation too? Or do you not believe mental illnesses should be valued the same as physical ones?