Over in NZ they have made massive strides to betting depression acknowledged. Sir John Kirwan fronted an advert; depression.org.nz/ and www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/ar ... d=10852127

Over in NZ they have made massive strides to betting depression acknowledged. Sir John Kirwan fronted an advert; depression.org.nz/ and www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/ar ... d=10852127

Was never a fan of his as a player, but wish him nothing but well on a personal level...

Awesome reading. Moving, enlightening and educating. Thank you its been a privilege to read.

It does demonstrate that no matter how alone you might feel in your despair there are many more suffering/that have suffered the same...if only you know where to look. Who would have thought it would have been on here !!! (when your GP tells you about the huge period of time you must wait before official counselling is an option hardly helps anybody).

I don't feel as brave as others on here that have told their story (such respect) for fear of tearing myself apart again....suffice to say I lost a good woman (my wife) because of its debilitating corrosive effects on my mind. I actually thought I was unworthy of her and it actually became a self fulfilling prophecy. ....

I have to take my hat off to those who have shown such great courage in sharing their innermost troubles and personal stories with their rugby sparring partners. You guys have earned respect. I consider myself so lucky not to have suffered from this debilitating illness which I have seen be the cause of much unhappiness in others.

Having highlighted how common this illness is on SS I would hope that this could lead to future debates being argued with more sensitivity and less personal attacks albeit still with conviction.

What a great point! We all have our own opinions, and this place is better for that, there's no need for it to get personal when opinions differ - whether that be giving out personal insults, or just taking someone's difference of opinion personally, we don't need that and it adds nothing to any debate.