Leeds will be in the last eightr sure. Not sure how long it will take the newteam to click but I hoe we use the preseason friendlies wisely to allow the new combinations to work out th 'nicies'

I recall it took the backs a while to get used to cuthbo's offloads

Rhinoms has sumned it up nicely

Yes I know how Wigan play but to have so few 100m+ games from your props I would find disappointing and area that should be improved, whether that can come from the current guys or a signing needs to be made.

I showed how many games Peacock, Cuthbertson and even Garbutt have achieved it in compared to Wigan yet Hardaker, Watkins and Hall all made more metres than ANY Wigan player so we're hardly slouches at getting metres from backs also. Going off his metres last year then Briscoe might well have been another had he not missed so much of the season.

The GF was a prime example of the need for a top prop. We were knackered over the last few weeks and particularly the start of that second half especially in the middle of the pitch in the forwards yet your starting props made just 8 carries each for about 50m+ and 60m+ respectively. Someone like Walmsley would've ripped us to bits but wouldn't stop you from still getting metres from out wide also.

Seems to sum things up.

I think the biggest hole will be left by the personalities of Kev and JP. Both of them just radiate an aura and a presence. You can see a little bit of it in Stevie Ward, but we need to find a forward who takes it to the oppositions big men and demands respect. Sam Burgess would have been the one. Ideally we need to grow one of our own, I don't think there is an English forward in SL at the moment who would do it - even if we could sign anyone - which we can't.

Looking forward to it.

Those figures are alarming
I'm so glad that we got a top quality player in Garbutt rather than that Super League plodder Mossop,although i wouldn't have any one of those Wigan players named at the Rhinos

i think that we will miss sinny & jp massively,but this day was always going to come where another player must take on some of their responsibilities

i am actually looking forward to seeing which players will take on these roles,it's a shame that stevie got such a serious injury because he would have been one of our leaders without a doubt

we look pretty good up front despite jp and kylie retiring and i certainly wouldn't swap any of our front row options of garbutt,cuthbertson,galloway,
singleton and mullally for any of those wigan players named above

Chris Houston being told to look elsewhere by the Knights. 30 years old, if Achurch is being released to go back to Australia a decent, experienced replacement?

Erm, no.

Hardaker
Briscoe Watkins Moon Hall
Sutcliffe McGuire
Galloway Falloon Singleton
Ward Ablett
Cuthbertson

Burrow Garbutt Mullally Delaney

SR: JJB, Keinhorst, Minchella, Walters, Achurch (if doesn't leave).
FR: Baldwinson, Mulhern (possible loan to Hull KR).

We're certainly pretty close to 25 even without Handley/Golding/Lilley. If the squad stays as above we'd have to look at a few more loans for next year.

We'll certainly be lacking the big game nous that's helped us to thrive when things are tight.

We'll probably end up playing without that restraint.

It could be a lean year.

Alternately, we might blow everyone off the park and play some scintillating stuff to boot.

Bring it on.