Okay thanks for that. Like I've said he was injured for a lot of this season, hence explaining a large part of his form, he's barely had chance to get going and it still remains true that NZW don't play him correctly. It's infuriating to see him never get the ball in a decent position, (as Johnson just overlooks him) his passing has still been excellent and he's still set up or at least had a hand in several tries this season. I'm a Melbourne fan and if you think that Cameron Munster is a better fullback then that just shows how utterly ridiculous you are being.

I was mainly talking about 2014 in regards to him apparently being a failure but okay.
About Johnson, that's why I said half the time. He is either on fire or clueless I was just making a comparison with his international form. I completely disagree with him offering structured play!

Tomkins was never going to live up to the price tag as NZW are a poor team that Tomkins just doesn't fit in with.

I'll not bang on about it anymore because I don't really need to justify how good Tomkins is as he'll do that himself when people actually start watching him again next season. Although they probably still won't because some fans are so blinkered they can't see talent when it's right in front of them.

Tomkins and Hardaker will both play for England and the side will be better off for it.

I think its fair to say that Wigan, as things stand, will be the team to beat next year. It's almost certain they will also go back to the old style of most things catered for, and going through Sam Tomkins and if he isn't that same player of a couple of years ago and teams are able to shut it down, it could create problems for Wigan as it is very one dimensional. I suppose we will get an idea in this coming series.

Tomkins is a great player....no doubt but i will be mightily relieved to see the back of Bowen who seems to save his absolute best games for us.

Leeds have, on occasions, got some mileage out of Tomkins failings at full back but Bowen seemed to destroy us every time we played, inc last Saturday when he was one of the better players on the pitch.

I'm also not quite ready to crown Wigan. Burgess will be a loss and I've heard rumours that O'Loughlin may hang up his boots due to the injuries.

If that's true about O'Loughlin, then why pick him over Cuthbertson for England? Shows McBanana up to be exactly what he is. A Useless Rugby League Coach.

Wigan are on two GF defeats. As saints can testify, that can become a habit.

Man for man there is no way Wigan should be favourites. Their scrum half is garbage, they are weak in the centres, their props are mediocre, hooker one-dimensional, loose forward on borrowed time. How they achieve so much has to be a credit to Wane.