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| I wonder if Keinhorst would be a good option for 13? He runs great lines, has great vision and a good pass and as a lot of posters are sayign at the minute he is a bit light weight, at 13 he may need to stay agile and keep running good lines. I know when he played for GB Students he played 6 or 7 and won single handedly most games for them including the world cup final at 6. I personally think it may be a good option.
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| No need for Keinhorst to bulk up just yet. He may well end up in the back row but for now he provides much needed centre cover for us and will get other utilty opportunities because of his skill set which could include half back and hooker cover.
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| Quote Gotcha="Gotcha"That's out of date on the Leeds website. However, it isn't purely about weight. I bet you in the gym, Wards weights are significantly higher, which is that strength he shows in the collision. Keinhorst doesn't break tackles, hence the lightweight. He does however run good lines, which is what G1 said.'"
Lifts that predominantly utilise lower body strength I'd tend to agree. I'm assuming the stats were up-to-date as of pre-season, not sure how you'd know otherwise.
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| Quote Andy Gilder="Andy Gilder"IIRC 2014 was his first year as a "proper" full-time player, having completed his degree studies. With the right programme over the off-season there's no reason he can't add say 5kgs without losing his mobility like Walters has done.'"
I don't think he absolutely needs to bulk up, because he's more valuable to the club as centre cover than second row, where if fit Ward, Ablett and Delaney will between them be 11 and 12, with Singleton, Cuthbertson, Delaney and JJB being the options for a "big" 13 and Sutcliffe being the option of we're going for a ball-playing loose (especially if Brierley joins)
Keinhorst will be very useful to have around with the new interchanges, where I'd imagine the ideal bench make-up will be two middle forwards, a hooker and a utility who can fill in for the backline with minimum disruption in the event of injury or alternatively spell a bit of second row. Keinhorst could be perfect for that.
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| Quote craigizzard="craigizzard"I don't think he absolutely needs to bulk up, because he's more valuable to the club as centre cover than second row, where if fit Ward, Ablett and Delaney will between them be 11 and 12, with Singleton, Cuthbertson, Delaney and JJB being the options for a "big" 13 and Sutcliffe being the option of we're going for a ball-playing loose (especially if Brierley joins)
Keinhorst will be very useful to have around with the new interchanges, where I'd imagine the ideal bench make-up will be two middle forwards, a hooker and a utility who can fill in for the backline with minimum disruption in the event of injury or alternatively spell a bit of second row. Keinhorst could be perfect for that.'"
Care to remind me what the new interchanges will be? Is it being reduced down to 8?
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| Quote Loyal Leeds Fan="Loyal Leeds Fan"Care to remind me what the new interchanges will be? Is it being reduced down to 8?'"
Yes. Not sure if it's official yet but apparently it's going down to 8.
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| Quote Gotcha="Gotcha"In your opinion of course. Which I am happy to disagree with, and comfortable enough with my own.'"
Of course you can disagree with opinions, but disagreeing with facts make you look daft.
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| Quote Stevosfalseteeth="Stevosfalseteeth"Of course you can disagree with opinions, but disagreeing with facts make you look daft.'"
If you quote a fact, I would consider it, but you didn't quote any. You gave your opinion, which wasn't fact.
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| Quote craigizzard="craigizzard"Yes. Not sure if it's official yet but apparently it's going down to 8.'"
McDermott's a visionary. He's been preparing Leeds for this change for years.
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| Quote G1="G1"McDermott's a visionary. He's been preparing Leeds for this change for years.'"
Whilst that obviously wasn't some future vision by the club, I did point out several weeks ago that if the number of interchanges does go down that we would probably be better prepared to cope with it due to our players already usually doing long minutes.
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| Quote Gotcha="Gotcha"If you quote a fact, I would consider it, but you didn't quote any. You gave your opinion, which wasn't fact.'"
Fact 1 McGuire will be captain. Who has skippered in Sinfield's absence?
Fact 2 Keinhorst is a solid starter. Check the team line ups in the match day programmes.
Fact 3 Keinhorst is lightweight. Check the website stats. He's almost identical to Ward.
Don't argue against facts. 
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