That will come.

On what basis do you make that assumption? We're not talking about a small addition to someone's game. We're talking about someone who currently struggles to even look to pass the ball being able to develop into one of the key ball handlers in the team. He's not some 18-year old who will develop his game, he's 23. I'm struggling to recall a player in their mid 20s making that sort of switch.

Looking at leeds I'd say Rob Burrow still can't pass properly well over a decade after he started. McGuire has always had a good pass in him, even when he was primarily a runner. Sinfield has always had a passing game as he never had much of a running game. Going further back Schofield was a great winger's centre before he moved to stand off.

I'm happy to be proven wrong, but I still don't see Hardaker making stand off. I'm not even sure why you'd necessarily want him to either TBH - he's good at what he does from full back.

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I have to agree with this, Hardakers main contribution has been the metres he's made this season, if he hadn't missed the Warrington game this season, he would undoubtably be the leader for metres made in the super league, you switch him to stand off and you've lost almost all that part of his game.

Dont see Hardaker as a natural 6/7.

I've never understood the thinking that Hardaker will eventually move into the halves. For all the improvement he has made as a player his passing has remained mediocre at best. Also, he's still relatively new to the FB role so IMO he should concentrate on becoming the best FB he can because that's the position that best suits his skill set. He doesn't have the skills of Lockyer, Davies or Pryce, or the organisational skills of someone like Edwards to be able to make a successful transition into the halves IMO
Golding, at 18, is much more likely to be able to move into the halves, and that's probably where he'll end up. I'm not sure it will be at Leeds though.

Lots of guff on boots n all about Saints injury woes, and not on jot about Hall, Briscoe, Kylie and Delaney being out

I posted the same thing a few weeks ago.

With those players out i'll raise you Wellens,Vea,Greenwood,Percival,Dawson & Lomax

I thought you said raise, guffaw.

Kienhorst on the wing as Golding playing for under 19s tonight

I thought that was a bit odd, they have a few out fair enough but so do we as all teams this time of year.Makinson at full back,hardly a shabby deputy and with Burns and Walsh back too in the halves they probably have there most creative options in almost a year!

Whatever the Sky boys try and tell us i would say Saints have the edge on paper going in.