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Quote: Gotcha "So it is quite open to interpretation. Nowhere does it say they are released from their Rhinos contracts, but then again nowhere does it actually say these are loan signings. Hence how did the RFL treat these deals.

Surely though the fact that some of these players have actually been doing community work with the Rhinos since that deal was announced, would say they are contracted to the Rhinos and remunerated from them?'"


This should have been stamped out 2 years ago when Swinton and Warrington were doing the same thing, but as Swinton weren't a threat to the top Championship clubs the RFL did nothing. The players who had supposedly signed for Swinton (all 8 of them) were still training with Warrington and in the case of one player Warrington sent him off on loan to London which was strange seeing as he was meant to be a contracted Swinton player !

In this particular case of the Leeds/Fev agreement, it is clear that there is manipulation of the rules happening although whether that amounts to a breach of the rules is another argument altogether. For example, in the announcement about the players joining Fev on the Leeds website it quotes Andy Hay as being grateful to Gary H for allowing the players to join Fev. But, if they had genuinely been released by Leeds and were no longer under their control then they'd be able to sign for whoever they liked as free agents and wouldn't require Gary H to [iallow[/i anything. He'd have no say whatsoever in the matter.

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Quote: Andy Gilder "Would doing community work for the Leeds Rugby Foundation charity be "working for the Rhinos"?'"

Matty Nicholson is a Community Development Officer for Leeds Foundation but plays for Fev, well he's struggling with a long-term injury at the moment but there's no dispute that he's a Fev player not a Leeds one.

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I do agree that the real problem is being in a halfway house caused by not having either a reseerve team setup or a genuine feeder competition.

As I said before though, of those slated to come back in 2016, how many do we think actually will? I'll start by saying not all of them. I wouldn't be surprised if half of those mentioned never play for Leeds again.

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Quote: BrisbaneRhino "I do agree that the real problem is being in a halfway house caused by not having either a reseerve team setup or a genuine feeder competition.

As I said before though, of those slated to come back in 2016, how many do we think actually will? I'll start by saying not all of them. I wouldn't be surprised if half of those mentioned never play for Leeds again.'"


Baldwinson will. Tonks might.

Minns and Foster aren't SL standard, neither are the younger Briscoe or Duckworth IMO.

Keinhorst might get himself a gig at a lower SL side.

So maybe two out of the seven could be Leeds players long term.

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Quote: The Phantom Horseman "Matty Nicholson is a Community Development Officer for Leeds Foundation but plays for Fev, well he's struggling with a long-term injury at the moment but there's no dispute that he's a Fev player not a Leeds one.'"

Yep. Jonny Wainhouse was (and still is) doing some kind of community role for Leeds for years whilst he played for Hunslet.

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Quote: The Phantom Horseman "Matty Nicholson is a Community Development Officer for Leeds Foundation but plays for Fev, well he's struggling with a long-term injury at the moment but there's no dispute that he's a Fev player not a Leeds one.'"


Exactly. Leeds have basically offered these players to Fev for a year. Fev are hardly likely going to turn around and refuse them to do community work for Leeds whilst at there club for the season......can you imagine if they told Leeds NO...? What good would that do them?

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