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Agreed gotcha. defimately can see where you're coming from. Do you think we'll give him anymore chances?

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Quote: Andy Gilder "I actually felt some sympathy for Manfredi on Friday.

Yes he stepped forward off the mark, but IIRC wasn't there a tackler right behind him and on the mark where the ball should have been played?

He was trying to play the ball quickly, couldn't because he had an opposition player directly behind him so stepped forward - almost doing the Leeds player a favour in the process by stopping him getting penalised for not clearing the ruck.

Certainly not the worst move off the mark I've seen this season, and probably not much different to plenty that will go unpenalised for the rest of the year'"

I thought the same at the time

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Quote: Old Feller "In which event penalise the tacklers for not moving away quickly enough'"


You're asking the tackled player to take a risk though. Does he put the ball down amidst the bodies, try to play it and hope the referee gives the penalty, or does he just step to one side or forward a pace to get a clean play the ball and allow his dummy half to get out with the markers still out of position?

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I am not sure what you were watching with that particular play the ball. He didn't just take a yard. He crawled forward first to create the situation where a Leeds player is behind, then he stepped further forward when he got to his feet. It was clear cheating from the player in question to gain an advantage. Rightly penalised.

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Quote: Sal Paradise "Isn't the second man there to assist in that area - surely giving the attackers more room is counter productive, isn't the point about line speed to cramp their space? Surely at elite levels it shouldn't be so rigid that one marker goes one way and the other the other? Both markers should be alert to what is happening it isn't as if the markers can't see the first receiver.'"


Good coaching practice is to teach your team to not get tied up at marker, the 'tight 6' markers and As and Bs work as a unit with markers typically splitting 1st marker usually nominating to go the direction closest to their usual defensive position. Standing too close to the PTB at 1st marker is poor practice as AG says.

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Quote: Seth "Good coaching practice is to teach your team to not get tied up at marker, the 'tight 6' markers and As and Bs work as a unit with markers typically splitting 1st marker usually nominating to go the direction closest to their usual defensive position. Standing too close to the PTB at 1st marker is poor practice as AG says.'"

Yep. There was a habit a year or so ago of markers standing too far back from the play the ball to the point of being only a couple of metres ahead of the defensive line (IIRC on rare occasions the ref penalised them) but it was for exactly the reason you state, to work together with the A's and B's. And now most markers will take a step or 2 backwards immediately after the play the ball in order to close the diagonal gap between them and the A defender.
Usually being tight at marker makes you easier to run past either by the acting half scoot or a quick play to a tight runner.
It's partly why the player playing the ball moves forward or to the side, in order to try and lock in a marker, either tight or directionally.

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