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If you freeze the play the ball Williams was also offside, it's not sour grapes but given what happened to the Bulls when we beat them at the Millennium stadium when Tansey was miles offside I thought for any game decisive incidents they were supposed to check everything. When you consider the Giants last play try/no try this year they checked onside three times, knock ons, obstruction, and grounding so what was the difference with the Catalan last play.

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Ref's don't give penalties for not being square unless there is involvement.

How many times do you see a not square marker, retreating back to the ten yard line as a clever hooker runs straight at them. The fans go wild but the ref never blows as the hooker can use the not square marker as an effective Sheppard.

You can watch a 1000 matches and unless the player not square at the play the ball touches the man, it's never a penalty.

In the end if 13 had picked up the ball and ran forwards it would have been a penalty, unless the player backed off to to the 10m's

Sometimes you can physically see the dummy half running with their hands on the markers chest, making it obvious that there is contact, but the ref will not blow unless the marker tackles.

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Not square happens dozens and dozens of times throughout a game and the ref ignores it, quite often someone will be cleary not square, he won't immediatly get involved but there might be an inside ball and the play comes back at him, he tackles and nothing.

If you watch for it, it happens all the time. I think it's clucthing at supreme straws to call foul on that one.

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Yes they do !!! and if Sinfield opts to take the tackle I believe we would have got a penalty and game over but we didnt deserve to win IMHO.

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Aren't we playing to a different rule this year? Markers can not be square at the ptb, get themselves square after the ptb (in the position they should have been when it took place) then get involved in play again before they have retreated 10 metres? If that's right then no offence occurred because neither got involved in the play that led to the try.

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A clear penalty never really attempted to get square and should have been spotted by Bentham, I still think given the importance if the play he should have gone to the Video Ref for the onside decision which is what the RL decided they'd do after the Ganson / Tansey incident at the Millennium. If you freeze the play at the PTB you find not only are they not square Williams is a yard in front of the ref and Henderson a yard in front of him. At any other point in the game the ref blows for offside and the balls punted thirty yards up the pitch. All that said our play was stupid with one minute twenty seconds on the clock you take the ball up from dummy half, four more play and a kick down field and it's game won

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