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I think Walmsley has been lucky for it not to be classed as a shoulder charge but it was definitely late and high.

Moon's challenge, in my opinion, was awful. He had no reason to even join in the tackle, let alone then throw his shoulder while stood still. It's not even as if he just timed his run wrong or went for a big hit.

What does annoy me though is the number of high tackles and face rubbing that goes on without being penalised.

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What does annoy me though is the number of high tackles and [iface rubbing that goes on[/i without being penalised.'"


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Quote: Tony Soprano "I think we may have to disagree on this one, for me Walmsley makes just as much intent to hit with the shoulder as Moon did, both had raised arms but not enough to affect a correct tackle


rlhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v

rlhttp://www1.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/rugby-league/9466984/was-walmsley's-red-warranted?rl'"


You must be watching different clips to me. Moons arms are by his sides, he turns his body to use his shoulder (one of the main things they look for to determine a shoulder charge) he makes no attempt to wrap his arms around Percival, and the only contact is moons shoulder on Percival's face. Walmsley tackles robinson straight on, no turning to use the shoulder, he is wrapping his arms round him as he tries to tackle him. I've no problem with walmsley being sent off as he hit robinson in the head but there's no intent. If you look at the shot at the point of impact Robinson's backside is about a foot off the ground and walmsley is already about a foot taller than him. Not trying to say this makes it ok but it does explain it to some extent. There's no comparison between the two incidents at all, walmsley wasn't even charged with a shoulder charge.

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Neither are that bad IMO. To the letter of the law both were red cards, think Walmsley's ban is about right, and Moon's is harsh.

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Quote: Harry Pinner "You must be watching different clips to me'"


That boring old chestnut


Quote: Harry Pinner "Moons arms are by his sides, he turns his body to use his shoulder (one of the main things they look for to determine a shoulder charge) he makes no attempt to wrap his arms around Percival, and the only contact is moons shoulder on Percival's face. Walmsley tackles robinson straight on, no turning to use the shoulder, he is wrapping his arms round him as he tries to tackle him'"


Walmsleys shoulder leading arm never moves!, his other arm strokes Robinsons back, sorry but I don't see how he "tries to make a tackle"



Quote: Harry Pinner "walmsley wasn't even charged with a shoulder charge.'"


I never said it was a shoulder charge if you look back a couple pages.


[i"In the Panel’s opinion you used an illegal Shoulder Charge and made direct initial contact with the head your opponent (Robinson)"[/i

rlhttp://www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/disciplinary/item?5798rl

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Any incident where a player is concussed by a late hit or a shoulder is worthy of a ban IMO. I'm not going to quibble whether player x deserved a bigger ban than player y, I just think that the RFL can't afford to be seen to be doing nothing in the light of recent research. And the coaches need to do what they can to stamp it out too.

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