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Quote: El Diablo "The red card should be the onfield ref's decision. Moot point here, as once the VR tells him it's a shoulder charge to the head, there's no decision to make.'"


I've only briefly seen a replay (just back from my holidays!) So this is a genuine question.... was it actually intended to be a shoulder charge? I thought it looked like a case of bad timing by Moon combined with Perceval falling forwards in the tackle. If so then it seemed a harsh (but not necessarily unwarranted) red card.

I think plenty of worse challenges escape punishment and suspect the injury was the key factor in the red (not something I generally agree with as intent should be the key factor)

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Quote: GARFORTH LAD "I believe Mr Silverwood is a Leeds fan, that's good news!!! as I dread to think how many 50/50 calls we would have had tonight otherwise. Lets hope we have the pleasure of his company again in the play offs? or will he be dropped like players who have a poor game? At least he made the night for Phil Clarke and the rest of the impartial team on Sky, and also he will have cheered up Eamon McManus, as they will now likely have the Hub Cap to put in the empty trophy cabinet. Can't wait till we meet again in the play offs!!! eusa_angel.gif

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People need to realise that making contact with the shoulder is not necessarily a shoulder charge. Every great tackle should make first contact with the shoulder. Last night's tackle was not a shoulder charge.

Moon made contact with the head of Percival which was a clear penalty (missed by Silverwood), and probably a red card though a fairly harsh one.

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Quote: roundpeg21 " making ground after the tackle but for once the ref pulled him up even the leeds appreciation society on the gantry agreed with that decision.
Compared to Cas he's a fecking novice!

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I also cannot understand the classification of Moons challenge as a shoulder charge, it was nothing of the sort.

It was contact with the head, and a red card is effectively a subjective call based on whether you believe it was intentional or accidental. On that basis it does seem harsh to be a straight red and not yet another and much more frequently seen on report incident.

Silverwood was at least consistent in his PTB rulings last night; horribly slow, which has been a feature of his refereeing this season.

The difference in penalty counts in each half is an interesting observation, 13 penalties 1st half and 2 2nd half. Did Silverwood receive assessor instructions to referee differently after half time? It certainly worked against Leeds who would have welcomed opportunities to take the 2 second half.

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Dorn must have done that 10 times at Wembley.

On every occasion he was told to get up and play the ball. instead of being penalised in possession.

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