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if someone is so far adrift that they can't qualify from 8th they should have done better in the previous 23 rounds. I would think that the point of this new system is so you have to put effort in to getting results all year instead of just at the end

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Quote: Gotcha "No, but I don't think Adults going as a couple or single would also pay the increase you mentioned. It is too much for 80 minutes of rugby. Football was and is overpriced, although it has realised it's errors and across the board in a lot of cases have had to reduce prices to bring supporters back.

Having a point where it is cheaper to go watch a final of Rugby League than it is to watch an half @rs3d league game, would be a disaster in my opinion.'"


Fair enough and you're probably right about folk not paying it. Without the extra being spent on the team, why would they? Can't comment on football as my interest there is zero but if you look towards the top union sides - the ones where our poached players tend to end up - then their prices are a lot higher than ours. For a spectacle that is, in my view, inferior.

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Quote: Sal Paradise "The point I am trying to make is this the game is lacking finance - as a result it cannot attract the quality of player that it once did especially those from the NRL. The chances of seeing players of the calibre of Lyon, Buderus, Furner etc in SL are slim to none in the foreseeable future. Most would agree the standard and spectacle on the field had diminished over the past few years - mostly due to the quality of its participants and its coaches. SL clubs have already suggested they cannot afford to fund reserve grade teams - does that sound like a sport in rude health?'"


I can understand why clubs can't afford to run a reserve team. We currently have a squad of 25 plus any Acadmey players that make the step up. To have a reserve team you would realistically need an additional 10 players as a minimum, which would probably add in the region of £250k to the wage bill. It was OK in the past where the players were part time and therefore the running costs were much less but it just doesn't stack up financially now.

Also, I may be mistaken, but the NRL teams don't have a reserve teams as such do they? Don't any players not selected go to a form of feeder club in the NSW / Queensland comps? I'm sure that in the NRL games I've seen there have been comments about part timers being called up to first grade during a bad spell with injuries or losing a lot of players during the rep period. I don't see that beoing held up as an example of the NRL being in poor health.

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Quote: FlexWheeler "If that's what you mean by ''family game'', then football is too. This isn't the 1980's.'"

I don't have any stats to back this up but I think you see proportionately far more women/kids/families at RL games than at football. I think it is generally seen as more "family friendly" than football.

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Quote: Sal Paradise "Completely agree with the last paragraph - both my boys played junior and open age rugby. The behaviour of the parents especially the women was sickening. Their abuse of their own kids, other kids, each other and especially referees was shameful for what is supposed to be a family sport.

Vibrant clubs like Stanningley have senior players closely associated to the club, in their case JJB. East Leeds have Danny McGuire, Kippax have Andy Lynch - it may be a coincidence that participation are higher where links are closer to the elite side. Kids look up to these players as role models what happens when the kids view these players in a different light?'"

I agree, I think links with the elite side are important for amateur clubs to increase/retain participation. As you say the kids look up to the top players and to have some link with them is what really gets the kids excited. Just playing a half time game at Headingley is a massive deal for a lot of kids! But I don't think the performances of the team has much effect on the kids because they don't understand it yet. I'd agree that the performances, especially at home, has an effect on the parents though.
Whilst on the links with amateur clubs, it frequently annoys me how little the pro & semi clubs do in that regard. Even clubs like Leeds, I think, could do an awful lot more. Some individual players do a lot but clubs as a whole I think are pretty poor in this respect. I think they vastly underestimate the effect of just a couple of players turning up and passing a ball around with kids for half an hour has on those kids.

Agree entirely with your first paragraph. It's something that both angers and confounds me at the same time. It turns so many kids and adults away from our sport.

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