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| But it's not, is it?
When Zak chose to use the F word, what he decided was that he could substitute 'gay' for 'bad'. That, in a nutshell, is the essence of homophobia that needs to be countered.
Words matter - they are the means through which interact with other people, that we understand our society and at the end of the day, ourselves. The turning of being other than heterosexual into something people should be upset about is incredibly damaging, both to the non-straight people who have to live in that society, and to the kids who haven't yet realised their own sexuality.
That's why the use of any homophobic term (and yes, it's homophobic even if Zak himself isn't a homophobe) needs to be stamped out. I understand that 'it was in the heat of the moment' and that, all things considered Zak didn't mean it and regrets the choice of words.
I also don't think that's an excuse. It should never be acceptable to abuse people on grounds of their sexuality, even if it's become a habit and even in stressful situations.
Consider, for instance, that someone called Bailey the N word during a match. Even if he apologised, said he knew it was wrong and convinced us he wasn't a racist, we wouldn't think it was ok, or that he shouldn't be punished for it.
We also (and I think this goes for other teams fans too) would completely forgive Bailey for beating the living daylights out of him.
So it doesn't matter what the situation was, the fact he used those words is enough. And though Zak using that word is less bad than many problems LGBTQ people face globally, that is also not an excuse for the RFL, and the entire Rugby League family, not to act.
I'm a Leeds Rhinos fan. I think Zak Hardaker isn't a homophobe, he's someone who made a mistake and now regrets it. I think him being banned would be bad for Leeds' chances of doing well this season, meaning I'm likely to spend money watching us get beat.
But I think the RFL should throw the book at him.
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Stop it. I'm getting twitchy...
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| It's clear some people from Leeds didn't understand it on Thursday evening.
In the second half when some Leeds fans migrated to the Western Terrace the languedge they used after Huddersfield got in front was far worse than Zak Hardaker and the group that were threatening to smash the Huddersfield spectators because we had the temerity to go in front were lunatics !!!
The stewards in the first half pulled two of us stood at the end of a barrier for putting a foot on the yellow line yet they allowed the foulest of languedge and the same people to stand in what we were told was 'a no go area' and listened to the vilest of insults without action.
I have come to Leeds for nearly fifty years most of the time when we had a poor team and got hammered with no problems but because we were beating a 'reserve' team through no fault of our own the abuse started.
Perhaps the problems are wider than just Zak but to hear the same insults used towards us all who are around 60 years of age and the attitudes of the Stewards who ignored them maybe casts light about why Zak thought it was alright at the time as did 'some' Leeds fans and their Stewards !!
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| Quote: fartown since 1961 "It's clear some people from Leeds didn't understand it on Thursday evening.
In the second half when some Leeds fans migrated to the Western Terrace the languedge they used after Huddersfield got in front was far worse than Zak Hardaker and the group that were threatening to smash the Huddersfield spectators because we had the temerity to go in front were lunatics !!!
The stewards in the first half pulled two of us stood at the end of a barrier for putting a foot on the yellow line yet they allowed the foulest of languedge and the same people to stand in what we were told was 'a no go area' and listened to the vilest of insults without action.
I have come to Leeds for nearly fifty years most of the time when we had a poor team and got hammered with no problems but because we were beating a 'reserve' team through no fault of our own the abuse started.
Perhaps the problems are wider than just Zak but to hear the same insults used towards us all who are around 60 years of age and the attitudes of the Stewards who ignored them maybe casts light about why Zak thought it was alright at the time as did 'some' Leeds fans and their Stewards !!'"
Such languedge is just unacceptable!!
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| Quote: fartown since 1961 "It's clear some people from Leeds didn't understand it on Thursday evening.
In the second half when some Leeds fans migrated to the Western Terrace the languedge they used after Huddersfield got in front was far worse than Zak Hardaker and the group that were threatening to smash the Huddersfield spectators because we had the temerity to go in front were lunatics !!!
The stewards in the first half pulled two of us stood at the end of a barrier for putting a foot on the yellow line yet they allowed the foulest of languedge and the same people to stand in what we were told was 'a no go area' and listened to the vilest of insults without action.
I have come to Leeds for nearly fifty years most of the time when we had a poor team and got hammered with no problems but because we were beating a 'reserve' team through no fault of our own the abuse started.
Perhaps the problems are wider than just Zak but to hear the same insults used towards us all who are around 60 years of age and the attitudes of the Stewards who ignored them maybe casts light about why Zak thought it was alright at the time as did 'some' Leeds fans and their Stewards !!'"
Have you reported it to the club?
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| Quote: fartown since 1961 "It's clear some people from Leeds didn't understand it on Thursday evening.
In the second half when some Leeds fans migrated to the Western Terrace the languedge they used after Huddersfield got in front was far worse than Zak Hardaker and the group that were threatening to smash the Huddersfield spectators because we had the temerity to go in front were lunatics !!!
The stewards in the first half pulled two of us stood at the end of a barrier for putting a foot on the yellow line yet they allowed the foulest of languedge and the same people to stand in what we were told was 'a no go area' and listened to the vilest of insults without action.
I have come to Leeds for nearly fifty years most of the time when we had a poor team and got hammered with no problems but because we were beating a 'reserve' team through no fault of our own the abuse started.
Perhaps the problems are wider than just Zak but to hear the same insults used towards us all who are around 60 years of age and the attitudes of the Stewards who ignored them maybe casts light about why Zak thought it was alright at the time as did 'some' Leeds fans and their Stewards !!'"
You weren't with that silly old man who wears the bejewelled middle eastern type hat were you. He made a right prat of himself stood there waving two lots of fingers in the air at the Southstand and mouthing F off when Udders scored. A man of his age should really know better. I'm not surprised parents won't let their kids go to huddersfield games and their crowds are so low.
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