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Quote: ThePrinter "What's quite bad is that even though he didn't play on Friday (in what was a pretty team wide shoddy showing), Bailey has received more criticism in the last 48 hours on here following Leeds' poorest showing of the year than most of the team....only Kirke and McGuire have surpassed him in that regard.'"


When Bailey is being quoted as a better replacement than what took the field on Friday then you call it as you see it. The introduction of Bailey would not improve the pack and if that is the case then why the hell do we persist in giving him game time and a new contract. I'd have Mulhern in the 19 for the rest of the season and off load Bailey and Kirke at the end of the season and recruit two new props that will share the workload with JP, Kylie and Cuthbertson. If Yates is anything like then that will be a bonus.

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The game you are recalling was the Challenge Cup Quarter-Final Replay at Headingley March '86 (David Creasser scoring all the game's points in a terrific try-less encounter), game four of the unforgettable sequence V Widnes over a eighteen day period.'"



That was some game, and some sequence.

In my recolection wasn't Creasser penalised in the original cup encounter at Widnes for throwing a Widnes players boot away? I seem to remember the penalty was kicked. And we complain about random refereeing these days.

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Quote: Gotcha "A discussion on whether Leeds can win the GF or not, and whether Friday was a poor performance, are totally different to what was said above.

On recent experience we do not know that we will come good when it matters, which is what was said.

However, is this team capable of winning the GF, is a yes. But totally different to the other point.

You get so defensive that at times I'm not sure even you know what point you are arguing.'"


Goes back to The Magic Rat's post about how we've peaked more than any other team at the business end of the year, it was then attempted to be dismissed by saying no look at 2013.

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Quote: ThePrinter "Goes back to The Magic Rat's post about how we've peaked more than any other team at the business end of the year, it was then attempted to be dismissed by saying no look at 2013.'"



That's not what he said at all. Had he said that, it is quite clear as we have more wins than anyone else, therefore peaked more than anyone else.

What he said was, we had nothing to worry about this year, as we had proven time and time again that we can peak at the end of the season. I just simply offered the view that, except for recent times, i.e. last year.

If you then want to get into a discussion about it, that is still different to the point raised. However, we didn't succeed last year due to tired, busted bodies, on important players. Those same players are a year older still, or two years older since it last worked.

Therefore it wouldn't be right to rest your argument on what has happened previously. Far better to rest it on what are these players capable of.

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Quote: Gotcha "That's not what he said at all. Had he said that, it is quite clear as we have more wins than anyone else, therefore peaked more than anyone else.

What he said was, we had nothing to worry about this year, as we had proven time and time again that we can peak at the end of the season. I just simply offered the view that, except for recent times, i.e. last year.

If you then want to get into a discussion about it, that is still different to the point raised. However, we didn't succeed last year due to tired, busted bodies, on important players. Those same players are a year older still, or two years older since it last worked.

Therefore it wouldn't be right to rest your argument on what has happened previously. Far better to rest it on what are these players capable of.'"

I never said we had nothing to worry about. Feel free to show me the quote.
I said posters writing the side off COULD end up with egg on their face as the team have proved in previous seasons we have been able to perform when it has counted.
We didn't last season, but as pointed out this we failed to win in 2010 and 06 but came back the following season to win the competition.

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Quote: DHM "That was some game, and some sequence.

In my recolection wasn't Creasser penalised in the original cup encounter at Widnes for throwing a Widnes players boot away? I seem to remember the penalty was kicked. And we complain about random refereeing these days.'"


It was Cliff Lyons that threw the boot (belonging to Tony Myler) away, it was reported by the touch judge to referee Gerry Kershaw who gave the penalty for 'ungentlemanly conduct.' Leeds queried the ruling after the match with Joe Manly (referee assessor at the game) who stated a letter had been sent to all clubs just a couple of weeks earlier regarding such issues. Leeds claimed to have seen no sight of said communication.

As a postscript to the excellent last minute angled penalty equaliser from the boot of Creasser - who had earlier missed with all five of his attempts - Leeds almost kicked the ball to touch believing they were still four points in arrears before frantic messages got through from the bench via the players across the width of the pitch.

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