Meh, I'm sick of watching his lack of effort. It irks me. Often we get by despite his lack of effort causing too much hassle due to the 16 other lads that carry him but last night his worst traits put us squarely in a 12 point hole.

Not saying we would have won without him but even when Wire were busting us every other player showed desire and effort. But not the spineless lump.

I can be rational and objective about every other player. Like Gilder said in his mis=directed comments, I can't abide lack of effort.

Sutcliffe took over at stand off (in a team that was already beaten) & showed some promise...............lets face it Danny is a spent force (both in attack & defence). We need to give Sutcliffe an extended run at No. 6 to give him chance to prove that he is good enough (rather than in & out of the team like he has been for too long).
As soon as Robbie Burrows is back, he should be an automatic choice at scrum half & get Sir Kevin back into the pack (where he should be) !

You just lost all credibility with your misnomer of beep beep

I thought he lost it when on a previous thread he asks for more grunt from the forwards then goes and says Sinfield should move back to the pack.

I watched the first half and then called it quits. Thats the first time in over 45 years which tells you everything you need to know about that game imho.

Possibly incorrect, but I wouldn't be surprised if a number of players - McGuire included - are more focused on the Cup game than many would credit. They've never won it. Its not unhear of for a player to realise it isn't going to be their day and back off with a view to saving themselves for the next week. A very silly thing to do IMO - playing half-heartedly tends to attract exactly the sort of injuries players are trying to avoid - but we've all seen it.