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It doesn't take long / many performances before being lauded on here, does it?! Wow! People raving on about Robbie Ward and that he should be in the squad after one game, about Baldwinson being deserving despite not having much (any?) involvement.

FWIW, i think Aiton has looked solid and pretty good, but he must've played like 5 or 6 times? It must say more about the poor standard of RL or Leeds' past signings if already he has done enough to rocket up to #1 signing in the last few years!

I thought Briscoe was immense at the start of the season and a total world-beater, but since he has been a bit less explosive but i've not gone from thinking 'best player ever' to 'most over-rated new signing i've seen' as he hasn't been around long enough (at Leeds) to yet warrant either description.

I don't know it to be this fast in giving praise on football forums I post on!

For the record i'm not saying R. Ward, Aiton or Baldwinson are 'bad' at all - they have done well in what i have seen of them - maybe it just takes me a bit longer to start praising people!

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I dont think anyone is going OTT regarding the importance of Aiton. Its mostly warranted.

He came over from Wakefield with a great reputation. Players player of the year is some feat, especially after the season Danny Kirmond had last season. Everytime I saw him in Wakey shirt he was the sharp tough cookie in the middle that just wouldn't bugger off.

Then he comes to Leeds and has a big impact in his first few games. At times when McDermott brought him off we fell very flat and Aiton soon picked us up once he returned. Yes its too early to call him Leeds' best ever overseas signing, but there is no doubt that so far you'd class him as an important player. What he does with his reputation from here on in is up to him, but at the moment we need that early season player back.

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Quote: RhinoNeil "I dont think anyone is going OTT regarding the importance of Aiton. Its mostly warranted.

He came over from Wakefield with a great reputation. Players player of the year is some feat, especially after the season Danny Kirmond had last season. Everytime I saw him in Wakey shirt he was the sharp tough cookie in the middle that just wouldn't bugger off.

Then he comes to Leeds and has a big impact in his first few games. At times when McDermott brought him off we fell very flat and Aiton soon picked us up once he returned. Yes its too early to call him Leeds' best ever overseas signing, but there is no doubt that so far you'd class him as an important player. What he does with his reputation from here on in is up to him, but at the moment we need that early season player back.'"


I understand that, yeah. But i guess the fact he has been injured for more than half our 15/16 games means his value is predominantly based on what he did at Wakey and is what he 'could be worth' to Leeds more than what he has 'proved to be worth'.

Even with my fairly novice eyes i can see that he offers a lot, but i suppose i just feel a bit that part of a player's 'value' is the length of time they have been contributing well, thus someone who has played say 7 times, at a 9 out of 10 level is harder to call a better signing than someone who plays at an 8/10 level 70 times. I'm sure there are people that Leeds have had in the past that must have offered more in their time than Aiton has in a handful of games.

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Quote: Jamie101 "It doesn't take long / many performances before being lauded on here, does it?! Wow! People raving on about Robbie Ward and that he should be in the squad after one game, about Baldwinson being deserving despite not having much (any?) involvement.

FWIW, i think Aiton has looked solid and pretty good, but he must've played like 5 or 6 times? It must say more about the poor standard of RL or Leeds' past signings if already he has done enough to rocket up to #1 signing in the last few years!

I thought Briscoe was immense at the start of the season and a total world-beater, but since he has been a bit less explosive but i've not gone from thinking 'best player ever' to 'most over-rated new signing i've seen' as he hasn't been around long enough (at Leeds) to yet warrant either description.

I don't know it to be this fast in giving praise on football forums I post on!

For the record i'm not saying R. Ward, Aiton or Baldwinson are 'bad' at all - they have done well in what i have seen of them - maybe it just takes me a bit longer to start praising people!'"


I think in terms of Aiton it's to do with not having a proper hooker there recently. Had he joined in 2012 immediately after Buderus had left he'd have a much tougher task of winning fans over.

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RhinoNeil - if you read this thread, some people clearly are going over the top. He looked decent in a few cameos but little more. I was really impressed with him in the first 10 mins at Huddersfield and thought he was very creative out of dummy half but then we had little ball for the rest of his stint. Since he was injured we've played games such as Saints in the cup and Wigan at home which are arguably our best 2 performances of the season. To say he was hugely missed is a myth. Would he have improved us in those games? Maybe, but not to the extent people are claiming on here.

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