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Quote: ThePrinter "Mentioned on the VT about how common it is now for them to go upstairs solely for potential obstruction on the play.

Seems all defenders have to do is run over to the ref claiming they were obstructed in back play and they'll go to the screen.

I don't mind them going upstairs for ones like the McGuire one or the hard to tell at first glance Wigan tries last week, but in too many games I've seen on Sky this year it's for an obstruction that wasn't actually there.'"


This. Shenton claimed (twice) he was obstructed. It should be down to the ref to make the call, and not get pressure from the players, and yet when a linesman says 'that was not a knock on' (Ward) and the ref to overrule his own lines man is a joke. Upstairs should be used for tries like you said, the McGuire one, which was clearly double movement, but the whole 'obstruction' during play should be the same as the forward pass rule is, only call it if the referee notices it, play like this shouldn't go upstairs.

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Quote: Gotcha "He knocked on in the "in goal" area, therefore drop out.'"


Yep I missed that

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Not going upstairs, referees making up their own minds? Can't be having that.

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The video ref always brings arguments, do the refs go upstairs to oftern, I think of two games when they should have, Fartown St Helens and the drop goal that was not given. Leeds v Wigan I think two years ago when Wigan scored two tries which were knocks on and were not checked out. But it does slow the game down, but the quality of are refs is so poor they need every bit of help possible.

But remember the Auckland 9's no video ref, and at the end of the event according to TV only one questionable decision. Could are refs do that!!!!!!!

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Quote: huddersfield rhino "The video ref always brings arguments, do the refs go upstairs to oftern, I think of two games when they should have, Fartown St Helens and the drop goal that was not given. Leeds v Wigan I think two years ago when Wigan scored two tries which were knocks on and were not checked out. But it does slow the game down, but the quality of are refs is so poor they need every bit of help possible.

But remember the Auckland 9's no video ref, and at the end of the event according to TV only one questionable decision. Could are refs do that!!!!!!!'"


No spell check? icon_biggrin.gif .. Although I suspect that might not be TOO helpful for some of OUR contributors .......

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Quote: El Diablo "I still want to see a trial done where the ref makes a verdict first by some means (not publically necessarily) when he goes to the VR, to see how often the end result is different. I do wonder how much value the intervention really adds.

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I honestly believe circa 80% of the time the ref will instinctively get the call right, but it'll be a call they aren't a 100% certain of, that's when they keep using the safety net of the ref.

I know when i've been at games (in a worse position than the ref) something will happen in real time and i'll just sort of know the decision ''nah, in touch, no try'' and low and behold the video backs it up, even on slide rule decisions, alot of other people are probably the same.

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