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Quote: craigizzard "In your opinion but not in the rules of the game.'"


er yes in the rules of the game - the post is considered to go up infinately. Therefore if the ball went over the top of the line of the post it would be deemed as a miss.

People really should read the rule book...

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Quote: SmokeyTA "i was wondering how that provision came about, in league a player should be behind the tryline for the conversion, and isnt allowed to make a play for the ball whilst it is in flight so i have no idea how a ball could realistically touch an opponent and go over without a rule already having been broken.'"


Just what I was thinking. We could get into the realms of the ridiculous by imagining some sort of human pyramid completely behind the posts with a player trying to bat the ball back over the crossbar, providing that the whole of the ball hadn't crossed. I'd actually give the non-kicking team a point if they could do that!!!

It would be legal to touch a penalty attempt though. Difficult but legal.

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Union has different rules, and you can charge a conversion down (there was a funny incient when an Aussie kicker took so long in a match against the Barbarians that the Barbarians scrum half - Irish fella, forget his name - strolled up and picked the ball up). Seems fairly impossible in League.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "I think I possibly wasnt clear in my use of specifically, which was referring specifically to what i said, not specifically to the drop goal.

Magic Superbeetle said that this [iGoal – 6. A goal is scored if the whole of the ball at any time how scored during its flight passes on the full over the opponents’ cross bar towards the dead ball line after being kicked by a player [/i meant that a ball over the post couldnt count as the whole ball wouldnt have gone over the cross bar.

I said this wasnt the case, that this rule was a provision for a ball for whatever reason crossing the crossbar before coming back out. This is specifically confirmed with [iBall blown back 6. If, after passing completely over the cross-bar the ball is blown back, a goal is still allowed[/i'"


Right, now I get what you mean. I still attach relevance to the wording that specifies that the whole of the ball must cross the crossbar, irrespective of what consequently happens to it.

Quote: SmokeyTA "I think the international law phrasing is saying the same thing in a different way, phrasing it as one law rather than one law and a clarification, and it isnt a provision for the ball going over the post but for a ball being blown back out. Otherwise it would make mention of the posts rather than simply assume that the crossbar ends where the post begins, because there is also no clarification that this is the case.'"


I saw your crossbar conundrum earlier. Look at the diagram on this page rlhttp://www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/rules/official_laws/1_playing_fieldrl . The crossbar on the bottom set of posts is 5.50 m wide measured from the inside of each post thus no part of a post is crossbar. If any part of the ball passes over a post, the whole of the ball has not passed over the crossbar.

I read another explanation which may resolve the confusion about the posts; when the rules mention the ball going "over the posts" they actually mean that the ball is just higher than the height of the posts, not that it has passed through an imaginary extension of the posts.


Having just read through that, I need a drink.

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Quote: El Diablo "Union has different rules, and you can charge a conversion down (there was a funny incient when an Aussie kicker took so long in a match against the Barbarians that the Barbarians scrum half - Irish fella, forget his name - strolled up and picked the ball up).'"


Indeed. It surprises me that the fastest players can actually cover the distance from try line to ball quickly enough to almost effect a charge down. It looks like miles to me!!!

Quote: El Diablo "Seems fairly impossible in League.'"


It certainly should be, if the rules are enforced. I'd like to see players show a little respect to the kicker by standing still and not lumbering back towards the half way line before the kick has been taken. It doesn't help that the rules are written so poorly - "When a kick at goal is being taken following a try, the opposing players shall stand outside the field of play." Is the kick "being taken" when the kicker begins his run up, when he strikes the ball or when the result of the kick is determined?

'Nother drink needed...

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Just to ratchet up the pedant-o-thon a few tweeks.if the ball miraculously hit post and somehow bounced and sat like a herring gull on the crossbar if an attacking player wobbled a post to help it drop over would this be adjudicated interfering with the ball ?

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