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Quote: Sal Paradise "Not sure what your numbers are trying to prove - number of games played compared to intensity and effort in those games. You seem fascinated with meaningless stats. I am only stating what Wane said i.e. the had put too much effort into winning the LLS - he obviously didn't learn anything from 2012 he just got very lucky in 2013.

I am not saying Wigan's way is the way to follow - I am merely pointing out their thought processes regarding squad strengthening and the differences in attitudes. Leeds have issues in a number of positions yet decide to sign a winger where they really didn't need one. For me Bateman would have been a much more appropriate signing than Briscoe.

One thing is for sure O'Loughlin was nowhere near the risk JJB was - if the coach was correct and his ligament was hanging on by a thread that is appalling player welfare - that could have finished his career and impaired his life after rugby. O'Loughlin would have been thoroughly fitness tested prior to both games - he didn't break down in either - you think that was luck I disagree.'"


Wigan are in the fortunate position that they have a lot of quality young players who are probably at the lower end of the salary cap as Leeds were in 2004. The difficulty is as these players are more successful they will demand higher wages and the struggle will be to keep everyone happy while still winning trophies. Something Leeds have done as well as anyone, bar maybe Saints, in the salary cap era.

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Perhaps people look at Wigan as in the past four season they've won trophies.
With 3 trophies a season over 4 season that's 12 opportunities to win silverware.
In that time Wigan have won 6, Warrington 3, Leeds 2 and Huddersfield 1.

Leeds have an excellent back line for 2014 and should be exciting to watch.
The pack has danger points in that it is so reliable on the exceptional Peacock.
Should he cop a knock that keeps him out for a length of time I'm not sure about the rest of the pack. Ablett is very good but the rest are not convincing. Aiton is a good signing.
GH has brought together a young, fast, skilful backline. He now has to replace the pack and halves with younger talented players.

Wigan will go into the new season with plenty cover for most if not all positions.
With Hansen recently gone it's my view that Clubb will take his place. He's a right sided player and a natural fit and his signing suggests he was signed as Hansen's successor. Bateman I'm pretty sure is a left sided player who will compete with Farrell for the place.
Wigan's play off form compared to the league ending form was due to Wane changing tactics. He only used McIlorum at 9, no Logan T therefore giving him two extra interchanges for his forwards. Flower played 13 and was on the field for long minutes in the two play off matches whilst Lockers came in for the GF. Flower again played for long periods in the GF.

It does appear that Saints have a stronger pack whilst Wigan's is young and powerful. Warrington don't have much cover from squad number 17 down with only 24 players given a number. Your prospects, like all teams, will depend on your pack. If Peacock stays fit for most of the season you have a good chance of silverware You really do need to keep that man fit!.

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Quote: Father Ted "Perhaps people look at Wigan as in the past four season they've won trophies.
With 3 trophies a season over 4 season that's 12 opportunities to win silverware.
In that time Wigan have won 6, Warrington 3, Leeds 2 and Huddersfield 1.
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Erm.... if we are treating all silverware as the same, ill thank you to include our World Club Challenge as well as our glorious run in the Lazenby Cup and Hotshot Festive Challenge kind sir.

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Quote: Sal Paradise "It is pretty high up there. 2014 will be an interesting year - we have the best three-quarter line up in the league, can we use it to its potential.'"


We had one of the best last year. But there's only so much they can do from inside their own half.

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Quote: thebloodbath "We had one of the best last year. But there's only so much they can do from inside their own half.'"


I think there has been a bit of lateral thinking around coping with our aging props there: One of Briscoe's big strengths is his work from dummy half. With Hall and Briscoe now added, we have two wingers who like to run from dummy half early in the tackle count, and are effective doing so.

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