FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > Leeds Rhinos > GH opinion latest - agree or disagree?
185 posts in 13 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
RankPostsTeam
International Board Member17230No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2024Nov 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
3043_1291817917.jpg
#frostiesbitches We know who you are.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_3043.jpg



The thing is about Hetherington, is the one thing above anything he does is put the game first. There have been many occasions where he has put the game as a whole before the Rhinos interests.

I said a few weeks back, personally I think Leeds need a change from his role, but would love to see him running the RFL. He has always being innocative, thinks outside the box, plans for growth, and knows the game inside out. He's forgoten more than people like Pearson and Lenighan will ever know.

If Hetherington is speaking with his Rugby hat on, and telling us these six idiots are causing a problem for the game, then I doubt he is wrong. However, I would say the RFL needs to change.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach22777
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2020Feb 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

//www.pngnrlbid.com [quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35] [quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]:



Quote: Sal Paradise "So within a year of leaving Halifax he worked exclusively for the RFL until he was indeed employed by the RFL as FD? How does that happen, are you suggesting that Wood was the best candidate in a technical role at that level that RFL could find?'"
Seems pretty obvious how that could happen. RFL needed an FD. They have worked with someone who has worked in finance both inside the game and outside who wanted the job. You have to remember that whilst at Halifax Wood was also elected, by all shareholders, as a board member of Super League (Europe)

Quote: Sal Paradise "Still the point that no one has answered - how did Wood morph into the top job unchallenged. What skills/experience has he demostrated in his career that would suggest he is a suitable candidate for a job of that gravitas? You say in another post GH should have a big voice given the status of Leeds are you now suggesting he didn't have a big voice when Wood got the top job?'"
Wood didn’t morph in to the top job. As part of the Watkins review the RFL structure changed. Wood has been CEO since 2008. He is CEO now. He was promoted to that job from CoO. In 2001 Ricahrd Lewis was both CEO and Chairman. In 2008 he was no longer CEO but still Chairman of the RFL. Nigel Wood was appointed CEO of the RFL with Richard Lewis as Chairman. After Lewis left Maurice Watkins became temporary Chairman of the RFL with Nigel Wood as CEO. After the Watkins review the post of Chairman was changed to a non-exec role and Brian Barwick was appointed non-exec Chairman of the RFL. Nigel Wood is still CEO, as he has been for 5 years.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach479No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Dec 2014Oct 2014LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
25380.jpg
:25380.jpg



Quote: SmokeyTA "Its not really about Leeds away support, it’s the fact that the biggest club would be taken out of the league. The Largest RL city would be taken out of the league and its spread would be hugely diminished.

Im sure Wigan fans would disagree but Leeds is the clubs the game can least afford to lose. It is the only major RL city it is a relatively huge city compared to most in the country and any in the game and the centre of a huge conurbation. That would matter to sponsors, advertisers and TV broadcasters. In fact the three largest cities by population are all on the other side. Leeds, Bradford and Wakefield is 1.5m people taken away from tv companies, sponsors and advertisers. It also then become a game which has 2 cities playing it the rest are northern towns and villages and I cant see huge numbers of international and national sponsors wanting to be associated with Salford, Hull and some smaller northern towns.

Whatever happens needs Leeds, there is no power in the other 6 or 7, they would have a poorer competition, which has direct competition, doesn’t have national body recognition, would need to go from invented to set up to running in a couple of months, doesn’t have a tv deal, doesn’t have any brand recognition, doenst have a structure or even enough clubs for a meaningful competition. These clubs would also not have the Challenge Cup or WCC to participate in as they are RFL competitions, there would also be the ‘threat’ of any player playing for this ‘rebel competition’ being ineligible for international duty, and I would hazard a guess that the contracts of these players specify that they are playing RFL competitions as the RFL holds their registration. I can see that their contracts would become unenforceable should the club leave the RFL jurisdiction.

For any kind of breakaway competition to succeed all the top clubs would need to move en masse to a competition that was set up and ready to go which left the RFL in no position to fight it.'"
Think we have to agree to disagree about who the biggest cub is.We aint done to bad for a smaller northern town icon_wink.gif

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach22777
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2020Feb 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

//www.pngnrlbid.com [quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35] [quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]:



Quote: pie man "Think we have to agree to disagree about who the biggest cub is.We aint done to bad for a smaller northern town It doesn’t really matter about who the biggest club is to be honest. More that the largest RL city by a country mile had been lost. There would literally be no argument to the charge that RL was only played in small northern backwaters if the biggest RL areas were Salford and Hull.

Him
RankPostsTeam
International Board Member14970No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2021Nov 2021LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
2244_1299706258.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_2244.jpg



Quote: Sal Paradise "So you prove all this is lies? '"

It's actually up to you to prove your assertions, something you have categorically failed to do. Your reluctance to do so, plus a reluctance to retract your comments leads us to believe you were lying rather than merely mistaken.
Let's take them one by one shall we?
Quote: Sal Paradise "The fact the RFL is in such a mess is partly down to Gary huge influence, he got Wood the job, who in turn surrounded himself with losers such as Solly and Rimmer. '"

You have no evidence, despite being asked several times, of Hetherington's influence in getting Wood any of his jobs, be it CFO, COO or CEO. If there is any, show us it.

Quote: Sal Paradise "
Wood is his man, he is in charge because of Gary '"

Once again, no evidence put forward. Merely repeating it isn't evidence. If there is any, show us it.
Not to mention you were confused over which role Gary supposedly got for Wood, who has been "in charge" for what? 3 years? So answer the question, which role did Gary get for Nigel Wood? His CFO role? His COO role? Or his CEO role? And then answer how Gary managed to do this?

Quote: Sal Paradise "When Lewis went Wood was put in temporary charge until a successor could be found - that process never happened!! '"

So which role did he get for Wood then? Because Wood's role DIDN'T change when Lewis went, Wood WASN'T put in temporary charge, and a successor WAS found.

Quote: Sal Paradise "No you can't so don't take the moral high ground - who do you think you are? '"

Yes I can take the moral high ground because you are wrong and won't admit it. I'm the person who asks you questions about your bizarre statements and you're the person who never actually answers them.

Quote: Sal Paradise "As an accountant by profession I do have a bit of an understanding of the market. Wood would never have got that job on his ability alone - his position at Halifax gives a good indication of his ability level - he had to have some influence in gaining the position. '"

I'm sorry, as an accountant you have an understanding of the market for a role running a sporting governing body? Or were you on about a different role?

Quote: Sal Paradise "We must agree to disagree on Smith and the England job, GH has shown he is a master at manipulating the coaching position. He got Lance out early, Powell never returned to Leeds as was suggested when Smith took over, Smith and the England job, McClennan- bringing McDermott in scuppered him etc. '"

Was Smith not qualified for the GB job? Who else was more highly qualified that didn't get the job? How did Hetherington bring his influence to bear on this?
Of course Hetherington is in control of the Leeds coaching position, he's the Leeds CEO, his job is to hire and fire the Leeds head coach.

Quote: Sal Paradise "I don't have prove anything, nobody else does on here and that includes you!! '"

Yes you do. You don't get to just post stuff without backing it up in some form, or it'll get treated with the contempt it deserves. If its your opinion then state it. But don't state it as fact without backing it up.

Quote: Sal Paradise " Just answer this, do you think without Caddick's backing Hetherington would have been able to transform Leeds in the way he has?'"

No, it would have taken much longer and been much more difficult, but then that was never disputed was it? What was disputed is the amount of money put into the club/spent on the club by Caddick. You have asserted a lot was spent by Caddick, and cited it as a major reason for the club's rise. Like all your other points, you have failed to provide any evidence for that assertion.

Now will you actually answer any of the questions put to you? Or will you do your Sin Bin practice of avoiding the questions for a while when you know you've cocked up and then disappearing for a while?

RankPostsTeam
International Star11412No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 201014 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2021Jul 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

"The Golden Generation finally has its Golden Fleece! They have Wembley Cup Final winners medals to add to their collection." 23/08/2014:



Loving the avoidance of his claims by Sal Paradise. Can't provide any evidence to his claims so therefore goes on the offensive to demand evidence of other ppl's opinions.

Of all the back tracking I've seen on here his has to be the highest......it's beyond pitiful.

185 posts in 13 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
185 posts in 13 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


1.70703125:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
Recent
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
weaver93
2376
Recent
Saints h
moto748
82
Recent
Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE
Zig
2474
Recent
Cas
the-bearded-
11
Recent
Bradford
BigTime
5
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
58s
TV games not Wire
lefty goldbl
3168
1m
Wakefield H
Bullseye
18
1m
Cas
the-bearded-
11
1m
For the live of god Arthur out
christopher
21
2m
Sackings
SFW
2
2m
Shopping list for 2025
Cuddleclub
3234
4m
TV Games - Not Hull
Riderofthepa
2096
4m
Tonights game v Leeds
karetaker
29
4m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
weaver93
2376
4m
Bradford
BigTime
5
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Wigan Warriors Extend League Lead with Derby Win
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Toulouse game
REDWHITEANDB
3
TODAY
Ashton extends contract
chris2925
1
TODAY
Damel Diakhate
Eastern Wild
5
TODAY
Sackings
SFW
2
TODAY
Warrington Wolves Into Second With Win Over Leeds
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Tonights game v Leeds
karetaker
29
TODAY
Watson toast
FIL
9
TODAY
Watson Been Stood Down
Deeeekos
2
TODAY
Watson gone
Jo Jumbuck
6
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Giants
doc999
5
TODAY
Just makes me laugh
Wildmoggy
1
TODAY
Anyone know about wfd v batley
Redscat
8
TODAY
Bradford
BigTime
5
TODAY
One more Saints inspired novel
glee
1
TODAY
Bradford Away 140724
Trojan Horse
25
TODAY
Fax v Fev
The Phantom
2
TODAY
Cas
the-bearded-
11
TODAY
Round 17 Warrington Away
Once were Lo
124
TODAY
Saints h
moto748
82
TODAY
For the live of god Arthur out
christopher
21
TODAY
Arthur In
Tex Rerp
45
TODAY
Wakefield H
Bullseye
18
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Wigan Warriors Extend League L..
73
Warrington Wolves Into Second ..
288
Salford Hold On To Beat Unluck..
787
Lucky Leeds Golden Point Win O..
1356
Wigan Beat Leigh in Derby Thri..
1407
Wakefield Trinity Register Thi..
2324
Englands Youngsters Beat Franc..
1714
Big Win for England Women Over..
1471
2024 State of Origin - Game 2 ..
1719
New Structure for 2025 Challen..
1813
Super League form rewarded as ..
2093
Superb Salford Complete Histor..
2214
Catalans Dragons Survive Secon..
2205
Warrington Wolves Snatch Late ..
1916
Spirit of Rob Burrow Inspires ..
2237
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.6M 2,902 80,08514,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 TODAY
     National Rugby League 2024-R19
08:30
Gold Coast
v
Parramatta
10:35
Brisbane
v
St.George
     Womens Super League 2024-R8
12:00
York V
v
FeatherstoneW
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R17
15:00
Hull FC
v
Hull KR
15:00
Leigh
v
Huddersfield
       Championship 2024-R15
15:00
Whitehaven
v
Toulouse
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R17
17:30
Catalans
v
Salford
 TOMORROW
     Womens Super League 2024-R8
12:00
Wire W
v
LeedsW
       League One 2024-R15
14:00
Newcastle
v
Hunslet
     Womens Super League 2024-R8
14:00
Hudds W
v
BarrowW
       Championship 2024-R15
15:00
Batley
v
Barrow
15:00
Bradford
v
Wakefield
15:00
Halifax
v
Featherstone
15:00
Sheffield
v
Swinton
15:00
Widnes
v
Dewsbury
15:00
York
v
Doncaster
       League One 2024-R15
15:00
Oldham
v
Crusaders
15:00
Workington
v
Rochdale
     National Rugby League 2024-R19
17:05
Manly
v
Newcastle
 Wed 17th Jul
     State of Origin 2023-R3
11:05
Queensland
v
New South Wales
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Sat 13th Jul
SL
15:00
Hull FC-Hull KR
SL
15:00
Leigh-Huddersfield
SL
17:30
Catalans-Salford
Wed 17th Jul
SOO
11:05
Queensland-New South Wales
Sat 17th Aug
SL
18:00
Warrington-Leeds
SL
15:30
Wigan-St.Helens
SL
13:00
Hull FC-LondonB
Sun 18th Aug
SL
13:00
Leigh-Salford
SL
15:30
Catalans-Hull KR
SL
18:00
Huddersfield-Castleford
Sun 27th Oct
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sat 2nd Nov
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Fri 12th Jul
NRL 19 Cronulla58-6Wests
SL 17 LondonB20-34Castleford
WSL2024 8 WiganW12-16St.HelensW
SL 17 Wigan16-12St.Helens
Thu 11th Jul
NRL 19 Dolphins36-28Souths
SL 17 Warrington30-18Leeds
Sun 7th Jul
NRL 18 Sydney42-12St.George
NRL 18 Canberra12-16Newcastle
SL 16 Salford22-20Hull FC
CH 14 Dewsbury16-20Doncaster
CH 14 Featherstone66-0Whitehaven
CH 14 Swinton24-12Widnes
CH 14 Wakefield34-12Batley
CH 14 York54-12Barrow
L1 14 Newcastle0-44Workington
L1 14 Crusaders18-32Midlands
L1 14 Keighley20-20Rochdale
WSL2024 7 Wire W10-32Hudds W
WSL2024 7 York V44-0BarrowW
Sat 6th Jul
NRL 18 Canterbury13-12NZ Warriors
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 16 443 182 261 28
Warrington 17 436 231 205 24
St.Helens 17 441 186 255 22
Hull KR 16 397 217 180 22
Salford 16 317 308 9 22
Catalans 16 304 234 70 20
 
Leeds 17 309 316 -7 18
Huddersfield 16 298 365 -67 12
Leigh 15 270 250 20 11
Castleford 17 280 455 -175 11
Hull FC 16 218 496 -278 4
LondonB 17 176 649 -473 2
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 14 520 154 366 28
Sheffield 14 382 217 165 22
Bradford 14 353 230 123 19
Toulouse 13 344 186 158 17
Widnes 14 327 269 58 15
Featherstone 14 396 283 113 14
 
Doncaster 14 257 341 -84 13
York 15 339 305 34 12
Batley 14 217 320 -103 12
Swinton 14 284 344 -60 10
Halifax 14 270 405 -135 10
Whitehaven 14 266 424 -158 10
Barrow 13 215 393 -178 10
Dewsbury 15 184 439 -255 2
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
Recent
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
weaver93
2376
Recent
Saints h
moto748
82
Recent
Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE
Zig
2474
Recent
Cas
the-bearded-
11
Recent
Bradford
BigTime
5
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
58s
TV games not Wire
lefty goldbl
3168
1m
Wakefield H
Bullseye
18
1m
Cas
the-bearded-
11
1m
For the live of god Arthur out
christopher
21
2m
Sackings
SFW
2
2m
Shopping list for 2025
Cuddleclub
3234
4m
TV Games - Not Hull
Riderofthepa
2096
4m
Tonights game v Leeds
karetaker
29
4m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
weaver93
2376
4m
Bradford
BigTime
5
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Wigan Warriors Extend League Lead with Derby Win
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Toulouse game
REDWHITEANDB
3
TODAY
Ashton extends contract
chris2925
1
TODAY
Damel Diakhate
Eastern Wild
5
TODAY
Sackings
SFW
2
TODAY
Warrington Wolves Into Second With Win Over Leeds
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Tonights game v Leeds
karetaker
29
TODAY
Watson toast
FIL
9
TODAY
Watson Been Stood Down
Deeeekos
2
TODAY
Watson gone
Jo Jumbuck
6
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Giants
doc999
5
TODAY
Just makes me laugh
Wildmoggy
1
TODAY
Anyone know about wfd v batley
Redscat
8
TODAY
Bradford
BigTime
5
TODAY
One more Saints inspired novel
glee
1
TODAY
Bradford Away 140724
Trojan Horse
25
TODAY
Fax v Fev
The Phantom
2
TODAY
Cas
the-bearded-
11
TODAY
Round 17 Warrington Away
Once were Lo
124
TODAY
Saints h
moto748
82
TODAY
For the live of god Arthur out
christopher
21
TODAY
Arthur In
Tex Rerp
45
TODAY
Wakefield H
Bullseye
18
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Wigan Warriors Extend League L..
73
Warrington Wolves Into Second ..
288
Salford Hold On To Beat Unluck..
787
Lucky Leeds Golden Point Win O..
1356
Wigan Beat Leigh in Derby Thri..
1407
Wakefield Trinity Register Thi..
2324
Englands Youngsters Beat Franc..
1714
Big Win for England Women Over..
1471
2024 State of Origin - Game 2 ..
1719
New Structure for 2025 Challen..
1813
Super League form rewarded as ..
2093
Superb Salford Complete Histor..
2214
Catalans Dragons Survive Secon..
2205
Warrington Wolves Snatch Late ..
1916
Spirit of Rob Burrow Inspires ..
2237


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!