Quote: Aboveusonlypie "Not sure how I can be accused of hypocrisy for being happy that my team won yet pointing out the flaws in the system and indeed arguing consistently that the current playoff system doesn't produce genuine champions. (I just don't see how a team finishing in 8th could be classed as Champions if they won it - and represent SL against the NRL champs as the BEST in SL - and I know that the NRL has a similar system, but that's their concern, not mine) '"
Well done for taking a sentence out of context, as I specifically noted how just last year I was happy Leeds won from 5th, while also noting that the system was not the best. The hypocrisy does not stem from that feeling, but from those (And I never included you in that) who last year complained endlessly how Leeds didn't deserve to be Champions as they didn't finish near the Top of the table, yet this year are saying how Wigan are worthy champions. You're a hypocrite if, last year, you didn't believe Leeds were the Champions, but this year you believe Wigan are.
And yes, I have no problems in calling Wigan the Champions of 2013, just as I had no issue calling Leeds it last year.
Quote: Aboveusonlypie "I suppose if it makes you feel good slagging Wigan fans off then go for it. But I'm not on here for a ing contest - there is usually pretty decent informed debate. I think that most posters recognise that the system needs an overhall, that a top 8 playoff is too random and that the playoffs and GF are obviously here to stay.'"
I also didn't 'slag Wigan fans off' in the slightest, or, if you think I did, you are incredibly over-sensitive. In fact, I specifically mentioned how the SENSIBLE Wigan fans had joined this debate - if you think calling someone sensible is slagging them off, that's really your problem.