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Quote: tvoc "Is this what the professional game is coming to - which team can goad the opposition into a reaction the best ..... what next, diving in the penalty box?

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Under this present flawed format no team finishing the regular season in third and coming off a loss has won a week two play-off fixture despite being at home V supposed inferior opposition.

This current Leeds coach has never beaten St Helens at Headingley during his tenure but in terms of the play-offs he has also yet to lose a sudden death fixture.

If the coach selects the correct run-on team and bench, gives them clearly defined roles and shares their workload it's a game in which Leeds can defy the recent past and win - if we see a repeat of the muddled shambles at the Halliwell-Jones it's going to be a tough ask even for a group of Champion players.'"



While being a keen student of history, in a sporting context it is irrelevant and bordering on superstition to suggest what has gone before is therefore what is going to happen this time around.. Next weeks game as in previous times will be decided by which team finds the necessary motivation and form to beat the other irrespective of position.

Leeds have had a huge handicap this season with key injured players returning too late to produce match fitness and form in time for the key playoff games. Our current and foreseeable future coach knows the value of his tried and trusted first choices and has tried to get them match fit in the space of a few games. He managed to inspire an outstanding performance for the Wigan game but the Champion players looked jaded and fell short at Warrington.

In hindsight it may have been better for us to have used the Wigan game to get the injured match fit at the expense of a victory. But to his credit that is not the way of our Champion coach who as always goes out to win.

So we need to lick our wounds, and pick out best and fittest players for next week. They can do it despite the odds being against them

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Quote: craigizzard "How much of this is down to the franchise points format, in which regular season attendance counts as a big tick, leading to discounted season-tickets to bump up the numbers but a devaluation of the "value point" of a game as spectators become accustomed to paying less.'"

I'm sure that has to be a relevant factor WRT poor play-off attendances. The fans do not value the SL product at £20 a game or more, and at some SL clubs the fans don't value the product at £10.

Quote: craigizzard "£10-£20 should be a bargain for even a mid-sized sporting event even in a recession (though it would still obviously exclude some spectators), but if your ST is £100 it doesn't seem that way.'"

When the business model involves maintaining a customer base of loyal season ticket holders paying between £50 and £150 for an adult season ticket, it's difficult if not impossible to turn the tide. Once they get used to paying at Poundland, they won't be keen on paying Waitrose prices for what is still a Poundland product, particularly when the play-offs are then seen as perhaps a one-off and unnecessary impulse purchase that they can well do without.

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Quote: FlexWheeler "What about reigning golden boot winner kevin sinfield? Or worlds best winger ryan hall? I ought to attend tonight. After all, it's one of those rare meaningful games where the winner is a mere 80 minute performance away from a Grand Final appearance whilst the loser has their season terminated. Additionally, it's a game which could go either way, though I still think it's around two-thirds in Leeds winning favour in probability terms.

Unfortunately, I'm in the habit of not attending and habits are difficult to break. If only there were some genuine star player attractions that could tempt me... alas...

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Quote: William Eve "I ought to attend tonight. After all, it's one of those rare meaningful games where the winner is a mere 80 minute performance away from a Grand Final appearance whilst the loser has their season terminated. Additionally, it's a game which could go either way, though I still think it's around two-thirds in Leeds winning favour in probability terms.

Unfortunately, I'm in the habit of not attending and habits are difficult to break. If only there were some genuine star player attractions that could tempt me... alas...'"


So you criticise attendances all over the forum, yet don't attend.

Good one!

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Shame you missed a cracker for your team. Was played in the correct manner, intense, some great play, some forced errors and all down to a drop goal in the end. Maybe next year you will buy a ticket, but then next year maybe you won't win. So opportunity missed.

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So I decided to take on the nightmare that is the m1 on a Friday and go to the game. The thought of a knock out pay off excited me. For me the factors are
Play off format
Weaker teams uncompetitive
Last minute arrangements
Economy

Personally I think the format is most to blame. Top 8 is just not feasible. The gap in quality is to big. Hull vs catalans just doesn't excite. The format is stupid and clubcall is a gimmick that adds nothing. Only a certain grip of teams could win it and that is the top 5. The other clubs are just filler.

Think that the games are not died until 5 days before doesn't help. It's not enough time for people to be as free as they are when they buy regular season games.

Money is tight for some, and a payoff game at shortnotice is not to priority for some, especially when the game is on sky

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