I am struggling with this as well. Who were you meaning OF?
For the record I like AChurch and think he has massive potential. He should have been on earlier last night, but I don't know how fit he was/injured.

I simply never cease to be astonished at the lenghts some will go to to excuse four or five drives a game from a prop.

Why can't all of the above be true but Kirke just, you know, puts a bit more effort in with the ball? Do you think he would earn £60k a year more if he took, say 8-10 drives a game? Do you think Peacock would be any less rested if Kirke took, say 8-10 drives a game?

The only time I've seen a player happy to be quoted that he sees his function is to give a team mate a breather is Ian Kirke. If he had testicles beneath that huge but gentle frame he'd never accept such a set of circumstances. He doesn't even have to be as good as Peacock. He doesn't have to be good. He just has to be willing to put his hand up and help his team mates out by carrying the ball, like any self respecting prop should.

Would certainly agree with this.Only Singleton of our current batch of front rowers has shown any glimpse of being able to shoulder the burden when they are not there, and he is still maturing as a player.Moore, although i do not rate him too highly at least looks willing to roll his sleeves up and take the ball up but he gets limited game time.The plain facts are that Our go forward diminishes significantly when JP is not there,we rely on him way too much in that department and god knows how we will go about replacing him after next year.

You seem fixated by Kirke's size rhinoms. Do you realise how many times you have refered to this in recent posts? Why cannot you accept that Kirke has never been picked for his go forward and neither has Bailey. Not only are you a sizeist but also you seem stuck in traditional positions having to be played in a traditional way only. eg Burrow not a proper hooker, Sinfield not a proper SO and Kirke not a proper prop. You still don't seem to see how the game is being played these days with backs packing down in the pack and backrowers carting the ball up. Surely it is obvious to you the role Kirke (and Bailey) are asked to play. So why keep banging on about them taking on a different role when it has been explained to you that our back rowers take on the go forward role at Leeds in addition to JP and Kylie. And we often play a defensive prop at LF

Despite all this talk of Kirke's giant size you fail to even consider that this year he is having to play extra minutes due to injuries (he has only missed one game I think) and will no doubt experience some extra fatigue in lugging about all this extra bulk about which could account for the extra missed tackles this year. He has made the 4th highest number of tackles for a forward and as I have pointed out he has the best metres per carry of all our forwards. JP excepted none of our other forwards have a hugely better overall performance. He also does attract several defenders to bring him down which because of his size will help to wear them down as does his weight in the tackle.

Kirke, Bailey and Clarkson do not have great go forward impact whether they start or come off the bench. For a long time now all three have been used as benchmen in reality and if they do start it is more than likley to rest a first choice like Kylie who offers some impact off the bench or to replace an injured first choice.

Not conclusive as he has been on a sick note/suspended for most of the year and we have had injuries which have effected the starting selections

Using your own logic, wouldn't that make your initial point..... 'not conclusive'?