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Quote: tvoc "He was well past 26 before he made his Union debut for Sale (after his full-time switch) and yes in my opinion he'd ceased being the threat he once was on a Rugby League field. Perhaps that's a relative judgement in his case and he was still earning his place at Wigan but his days of terrorising the Leeds defences were seemingly over.

Greenwood perhaps is worthy of inclusion in a discussion about quality outside backs but Dawson would have been a RL hooker and Wilkinson could tackle (when not injured) but possessed a passing game that made Rob Burrow look like John Holmes.'"


Mike catt, Ben Cohen, Josh Lewsey & Mike Tindall were all good backs playing for England at that time. I think your initial comment about the quality of Union backs at the time Robinson crossed codes was harsh.

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Quote: Maximillion "The position of wing in Union v League is somewhat different, you have much more space in union to work with and as the defensive lines are usually more stretched in Union you can have more attacking options as a runner v a direct run in league.

Robinson was not past his best in my opinion, but his foot work and acceleration was easier for him to exploit in Union. For the comparison lets take Ryan Hall, in Union I think he would be a solid winger but also have a weakness for quicker and more agile (Robinson Style) wingers to atttack him. So to do a direct comparison is not really accurate in my opinion.'"

Id say the opposite really, Hall would go fine in Union, just like Lomu did as a big, strong, fast direct runner. I think Hall would be an absolute revelation in Union. Robinson on the other hand would have struggled as League changed as a game with a clear move away from the smaller speedsters, to larger wingers, this was only two years before Big Les remember. Also as the game has change Robinson would have been kicked to death in League, Imagine him trying to compete for kicks with Hall or Richards or Charnley. Robinson was a great, great player, but of his time, im not sure how much of it was down to Robinson losing anything or the game just changing around him and him coming up against bigger players who as professionals were better equipped to deal with him, but I don’t think we will see another of his kind. Only two like him have come through since him imo (by that I mean short. Agile, speedster wingers, the first Ainscough was great going forward but a huge defensive liability, and the new one Keiron Dixon is a try machine who cannot defend.

What we have seen is those types of players pushed to half back to cover for those issues, like Burrow and Eastmond.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "Id say the opposite really, Hall would go fine in Union, just like Lomu did as a big, strong, fast direct runner. I think Hall would be an absolute revelation in Union. Robinson on the other hand would have struggled as League changed as a game with a clear move away from the smaller speedsters, to larger wingers, this was only two years before Big Les remember. Also as the game has change Robinson would have been kicked to death in League, Imagine him trying to compete for kicks with Hall or Richards or Charnley. Robinson was a great, great player, but of his time, im not sure how much of it was down to Robinson losing anything or the game just changing around him and him coming up against bigger players who as professionals were better equipped to deal with him, but I don’t think we will see another of his kind. Only two like him have come through since him imo (by that I mean short. Agile, speedster wingers, the first Ainscough was great going forward but a huge defensive liability, and the new one Keiron Dixon is a try machine who cannot defend.

What we have seen is those types of players pushed to half back to cover for those issues, like Burrow and Eastmond.'"


I would agree that Hall at his peak would have done well in Union. Robinson was still at his peak when he left League and I feel sure he would have continued to "terrorise" for many years to come. As you point out League made a move to bigger wingers and indeed bigger centres with the kick becoming a more important attacking option.

IMO this has been one of the reasons for the decline in attacking skills from the backs in SL. Centres these days have little more to offer than back rowers, indeed many of them are back rowers. The news of Tomkins SL exit is not good for those that enjoy seeing a running back with silky skills.

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Quote: Finfin "Robinson was outstanding during his last RL season in 2000, his combination with Renouf was the stuff of dreams. Unfortunately - for Wigan - our idiotic coach decided to play him at full back in the grand Final and that poor performance may be skewing your recollections.'"


Thanks for the civil response - not always a given on here unfortunately.

My recollections are formed from the viewpoint of an opposition fan over several seasons. Perhaps it was particularly noticeable in the games V Leeds, perhaps he'd set an incredibly high benchmark V his home town team in the pre and early SL seasons that was impossible to maintain, perhaps Leeds had worked him out to some degree and devised plans to shackle him but for whatever reason/s (and purely from my perspective) his threat as a League player had diminished and I was no longer expecting the worse when he got hold of the ball for Wigan.

I expect there are opposition fans out there who feel likewise when the last couple of season's versions of McGuire and Burrow are in possession compared to how they felt a few years back.

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Probably most fans know we turned down the chance to sign Robinson , he came to the club as a half back,unfortunately the club claimed they were well covered for half backs.
By a strange quirk of fate one of the senior coaching staffs son was at the club as a half back. This player never reached the heights of Robinson .

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Quote: tvoc "Thanks for the civil response - not always a given on here unfortunately.

My recollections are formed from the viewpoint of an opposition fan over several seasons. Perhaps it was particularly noticeable in the games V Leeds, perhaps he'd set an incredibly high benchmark V his home town team in the pre and early SL seasons that was impossible to maintain, perhaps Leeds had worked him out to some degree and devised plans to shackle him but for whatever reason/s (and purely from my perspective) his threat as a League player had diminished and I was no longer expecting the worse when he got hold of the ball for Wigan.

I expect there are opposition fans out there who feel likewise when the last couple of season's versions of McGuire and Burrow are in possession compared to how they felt a few years back.'"

Apologies for wandering off thread, you are right about Mc Guire and Burrow , when younger together they were sensational , Danny's had bad luck with injuries and lost a bit of pace . Whilst rob has been asked to play various positions in the team not all of which suit him. It's to his credit he gets on and does it without any serious complaint .
It would not surprise me if somebody came in with a decent offer he would leave.

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