Quote Juan Cornetto="Juan Cornetto"Is this your entry for the Pedant of the Year award? I guess you will have a difficult decision choosing which of your posts to enter this year!
You talk of using selective stats to suit an agenda and you use the word "balance" ...not a word I readily associate with your postings.'"
I'm not the focus of this message board. I come in here to listen to and share opinions on the game and on the team I've supported through (thinking in decade terms) thick and thin and thin and thin and thick.
I'd much rather talk about Leeds on here than talk about me - I don't matter. Some people appear to give the impression that my opinions count for something but they don't, they really don't. They are there for people to have a pop at as they see fit and I'll see if I can defend them.
I'm sorry if you don't appreciate having your opinions or the evidence to support them challenged on occasions such as your recent 'Hardaker can't pass for toffee' claim but I'm sure your opinions can withstand a little scrutiny if they're valid. I've even asked for, if not past examples, examples as they occur in the future but you're still not happy.
Quote Juan Cornetto="Juan Cornetto"I may well have an agenda and if so, it should be plain for all to see that it is to argue against comments that IMO are too negative, too insulting, too OTT or too wrong to let go. This doesn't mean I am blind to the mistakes, errors, loss of form and human failings that occur in our team from time to time and therefore I have never been against general critical comment and discussion. None of this proves any of us are always correct as in the end is a just question of opinion. As someone once said 'there is what you say, and what I say and then there is the truth''"
No-one's word on this forum is the law - it is as you say mostly opinion but opinions should still be formed from incidents that can be related back to otherwise how was the opinion formed. Posters should still be expected and be able to justify an opinion when challenged to do so.
Quote Juan Cornetto="Juan Cornetto"In this case my comments clearly stated that we should put Vickery's errors in perspective and I pointed out Hall's lack of form (at the time) not to have a go at him (as I rate him highly) but as a "balance". '"
Vickery's efforts have been put in perspective and hopefully we won't need to discuss his efforts as a Leeds player ever again and certainly not after his one year deal expires. If that means those whose initial assessment was that he's nothing to get excited about (me included - but only after watching a few appearances first) proves correct (as you seem to imply McDermott to be the sole arbiter) and others (yours included) are proven wrong then so be it.
Quote Juan Cornetto="Juan Cornetto"Regarding the use of selective stats well of course I will use the amunition that best supports my argument and so do you and most others. eg When you have been regulary and selectively deriding Vickery you never mentioned Hall's poor form to put in some "balance" did you....."sorry I didn't quite catch it".'"
I'm not as convinced as you are that the Hall comment is justified. In what way do you think Hall has been out of form and for how long? This is where you generally can't be bothered to offer anything other than Opta - you see we're all capable of making generalised statements that to the other poster feels unwarranted.
Quote Juan Cornetto="Juan Cornetto"Talking of agendas yours too is plain for all to see. Whatever the topic you choose to take a position that is both negative and anti Leeds. Your crusade against the CEO, McDermott, Lowes is well known despite their success and you have on-going issues against JJB, Burrow, the away strip etc and now Vickery, Moon, the medical staff etc etc.'"
And the rest but what of it?
They are the views/concerns of a fan/customer. You never posted anything negative, have Leeds never made a poor decision, you never seen Jones-Buchanan fall asleep on top of a ball carrier and wondered how helpful defending another set of six is going to be?
Quote Juan Cornetto="Juan Cornetto"You never seem to show balance or give the benefit of the doubt to those on your keyboard hit list and the only thing you prove when using VT as evidence is that you have more time than anyone else to trawl through repeat playbacks to find some "selective moment" that you know no-one else has the time or inclination to challenge.'"
I know no such thing - how could I? I'm not afraid whether someone looks at the same incident I'm looking at or not - it's entirely up to them. All they need is a Sky subscription it's not any more difficult than that. What follows is a debate based on an actual incident using actual evidence - where both sides are free to give a view just as we did here over the opening Hull try. We both had our say - I didn't alter my view and I doubt you did either.
Quote Juan Cornetto="Juan Cornetto"What I would like to know is what brought about this negative agenda againstLeeds.'"
What negative agenda?
Wanting something (in this case Leeds RLFC) to be the best it can be is where I'm coming from and if that means questioning some decisions from time to time (but only on here, where no-one connected with Headingley probably even sees it let alone would overly care if they did) then so be it.
