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Ryan Hall is suffering just like the rest of the team at the moment but as always he will be back just like the team, pies wil have to have a few losses before season ends.

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Something we see every week BB when we attack so flat and utilise the "line ball" so often.

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Quote: thebloodbath "He must be learning well from our long terms pivots then.

One hospital pass? Hardly conclusive.

You word it 'reluctance to pass' when he was at centre. The other way to read it is that he backs himself to do some damage and go on his own. Which he did. Ablett is similar when he plays centre, I'd say his strength to break the line and to make metres driving is stronger than his ability to pass.'"


Nothing conclusive but wasn't intelligent reading of the situation. But it is just my opinion. You word it "he backs himself to do damage and go on his own" The other way to read that is a bit greedy. I have already said his physical strength is way ahead of his passing abilities so we agree then?

Hardaker is a big asset to the side but Watkins showed some lovely stuff in attack when he was at FB which was very fruitfull. Be interesting to see if he keeps developing his skills.

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Quote: rhinoms "Something we see every week BB when we attack so flat and utilise the "line ball" so often.'"


We don't help ourself. Old cliche but we are our own worst enemy sometimes.

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Quote: Juan Cornetto "Nothing conclusive but wasn't intelligent reading of the situation. But it is just my opinion. You word it "he backs himself to do damage and go on his own" The other way to read that is a bit greedy. I have already said his physical strength is way ahead of his passing abilities so we agree then?

Hardaker is a big asset to the side but Watkins showed some lovely stuff in attack when he was at FB which was very fruitfull. Be interesting to see if he keeps developing his skills.'"


I'd say his amibition with ball in hand combined with his footwork and speed are in front of his passing abilities. No brainer. So we're on the same page there more or less.

He is developing week in week out. We have a class player on our hands and he will develop further no doubt. The individual talents I talk about above he's had more practice at and how he beds in at FB (linking in with his team, decision making, timings) will take longer to fine tune. Wasn't too long ago he was carving his way as an up and coming centre, now he's an established star fullback.

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Quote: Juan Cornetto "In a very recent game Hardaker game a murder pass (which might even have been forward as well)'"


Sounds more like a recent example of a starting hooker's pass.

As you can't find anything easily identifiable (very recent, unknown recipient - all a bit vague) perhaps the way forward is to look out for future examples rather than past ones and drop them in to here for discussion.

Who knows you might even come to realise your critique is unjustified and you may moderate your opinion.

I don't mind Hardaker not passing when he's capable of scoring the type of try he ran in last night but if a pass is on to a player in a better position I would still expect him to give it.

Quote: Juan Cornetto "Hardaker is a big asset to the side but Watkins showed some lovely stuff in attack when he was at FB which was very fruitfull. Be interesting to see if he keeps developing his skills.'"


Examples? Oh I forgot you don't do examples - how about comparing Opta 'try assists' instead or would they be mis-leading?

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