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You 'Rhinos' fans need to get off your high horses about Mr Bentham. He wasn't the reason you threw the match away.

He was clearly heard telling the players of BOTH sides he'd had enough of the pushing and would penalise it if both captains didn't sort it out.

And what did 'Brain of Britain' Jamie Peacock do literally seconds later?

Push someone! Causing what was probably a match winning drop goal to be disallowed!


Blame JP and his captain for the loss of a valuable point tonight.

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Quote: ThePrinter "I know some are saying now that shoulder charges are banned shouldn't all offences be a red/yellow card but I think they have to be treated the same as head high tackles.....some are worthy of dismissal, some a simple penalty while do.'"


I'd agree with that.

All shoulder charges should now be penalised as a matter of routine, although it appears some won't be (such as for example Huby on Ah Van last week in the Castleford V Widnes game) and you'd expect any that make contact with an opponent's head should result in a red card - this was already becoming the case in 2012 even before the shoulder charge was banned.

Jon Wilkin should have a case to answer after his challenge on Dobson yesterday.

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After the Gardner one on Welham, why wasn't the Hodgson 'try' allowed to stand? It appeared that Silverwood ruled a knock-on yet Hodgson got his leg to the ball before it hit the deck to propel it forward before it hit the ground and I thought after a Dave Halley 'no try' ruling in a Bradford -Leeds game from a few seasons back - the rule book geeks had determined that that didn't constitute a knock-on.

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Quote: tvoc "I'd agree with that.

All shoulder charges should now be penalised as a matter of routine, although it appears some won't be (such as for example Huby on Ah Van last week in the Castleford V Widnes game) and you'd expect any that make contact with an opponent's head should result in a red card - this was already becoming the case in 2012 even before the shoulder charge was banned.

Jon Wilkin should have a case to answer after his challenge on Dobson yesterday.

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After the Gardner one on Welham, why wasn't the Hodgson 'try' allowed to stand? It appeared that Silverwood ruled a knock-on yet Hodgson got his leg to the ball before it hit the deck to propel it forward before it hit the ground and I thought after a Dave Halley 'no try' ruling in a Bradford -Leeds game from a few seasons back - the rule book geeks had determined that that didn't constitute a knock-on.'"


I thought that when I watched the game too. Maybe it was Hodgson 'giving himself up', had he after putting the ball down got up celebrating a try then Silverwood MIGHT'VE gone to the screen, but he kind of just 'owned up' to knocking on.

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I'd have to check but I got the impression at the time that Silverwood had already blown for the knock-on before Hodgson followed up to touch-down. That might excuse Hodgson's poor attempt at claiming the score.

Personally I don't think such instances should be play-on (as I argued at the time in regards the Dave Halley incident) but if it's covered in the laws the referee should apply the correct ruling.

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Quote: tvoc "I'd have to check but I got the impression at the time that Silverwood had already blown for the knock-on before Hodgson followed up to touch-down. That might excuse Hodgson's poor attempt at claiming the score.

Personally I don't think such instances should be play-on (as I argued at the time in regards the Dave Halley incident) but if it's covered in the laws the referee should apply the correct ruling.'"


I suppose it depends on the player. When Leeds recently played Catalans one of their players got up and looked certain he'd scored a try, when they went to the screen Vickery had clearly knocked it out for a drop-out before the Catalans player got there.

As Hodgson was only about 5 yards out he could've just plonked the ball down regardless and then asked the question, however i don't think Silverwood is the type to change his mind so probably would've been fruitless.

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I think both players in those incidents were playing to the whistle which is why I imagine Mathias Pala claimed the score and David Hodgson didn't.

In fairness to Hodgson he probably felt gutted that he'd spilled the pass with the line at his mercy.

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