Thought Vickery did ok considering it was his first run out after his injury(in such a big game), Achurch was disappoiting......pretty much a poor mans Kirke (and thats not a knock on Ian). I was once again a little worried about McShanes turnstyle tackling technique for the very poor try we gave up. I've seen that hands on shoulder getting brushed off easily lazy effort far too often already in his limited career here.

And in Gotcha world you've been claiming this team was finished for several years so why should anyone take your opinions on why you think we've been successful seriously?

Did I say it's alright?

The question is whether Leeds' defensive alignment is being compromised on occasions by using a converted half-back who cannot defend the ruck. While in theory it's possible to do so by shifting additional defensive responsibilities on to the loose-forward does it work well in practice?

Prior to Burrow being used as a starting hooker I don't recall noting he and McGuire stood side by side in the defensive line too often - presenting opponents with a rather obvious target to attack - whereas over the course of this season and last it's becoming a fairly common sight.

While both can and generally do defend well out wide (one on either flank) you wouldn't want them together having a big forward heading their way, especially when close to the line. It's also been the case where players on the opposite flank when this has happened over the last two games (Moon V Melbourne and Ablett V St Helens) have been left waving for re-inforcements as the defensive line has become unbalanced and failed to adjust.

But of course our esteemed coach has noticed this and cannot be criticised for his selection policy: the 17 chosen are obviously the best at training the house down