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| Quote thebloodbath="thebloodbath"How did Ward look against Hunslet fitness wise? Was he blowing? I know he played most of the game.
Griff/Kirke - ???? You could argue that one all day.
Be interesting to see when Achurch gets a few opportunities how he takes them. Also when Moore returns from fitness these 2 should be used wisely to give some of the older pack heads the opportunity to practice quality over quantity.'"
I'm interested to see more of Achurch and how he does, what is his best position.
I agree we need to use JP and Kylie wisely, surely next season's big signing (if there is one) should be a prop.
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| Quote rhinoms="rhinoms"As much as i rate Ward i dont think he's fit enough just yet so id have Clarkson in his spot on the bench and swop Griffin for Kirke.'"
To ignore Clarkson would render preseason almost worthless. By all accounts he has been training the house down since he returned, and was regarded by many as man of match against the Bulls.
Preseason should be where you stake a claim for the Jersey's first.
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| Stevie Ward has been named in the u19 line up for their thursday fixture v Ull so id expect Clarkson to get a bench spot.
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| Quote Gotcha="Gotcha"To ignore Clarkson would render preseason almost worthless. By all accounts he has been training the house down since he returned, and was regarded by many as man of match against the Bulls.
Preseason should be where you stake a claim for the Jersey's first.'"
Exactly, and just going by the Bulls game, Clarkson deserves the 1st go. He was probably the best forward on the park and it should be now his to lose.
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| Interesting to see what the lineup is. I think the 13 is pretty certain.
On the bench we'll see what the thoughts of the coach are, and what role Achurch is likely to play. I'd expect Griffin to get a game as there is no other out and out prop in the squad, though you could argue Kirke is
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| Quote The Eagle="The Eagle"I'd expect Griffin to get a game as there is no other out and out prop in the squad, though you could argue Kirke is'"
Kirke may not like playing prop but I think this season that's where his services will be most needed.
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| Friendlies apart, I can't think of many times in recent years where Kirke has been named at anything other than prop when he's been in the starting lineup, or replaced anyone other than a prop when he's come off the bench.
IMO he was the perfect fit for the loose forward role that Bailey played for chunks of last season. Good tackler, mobile, decent footwork.
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| Quote Harrigan="Harrigan"Exactly, and just going by the Bulls game, Clarkson deserves the 1st go. He was probably the best forward on the park and it should be now his to lose.'"
Agree that Clarkson deserves his chance and was by far the best forward against Bulls.
He ran some good angles and tackled well.
I also think Griffin should get the nod over Kirke for this one.
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| Quote Andy Gilder="Andy Gilder"Friendlies apart, I can't think of many times in recent years where Kirke has been named at anything other than prop when he's been in the starting lineup, or replaced anyone other than a prop when he's come off the bench.
IMO he was the perfect fit for the loose forward role that Bailey played for chunks of last season. Good tackler, mobile, decent footwork.'"
Did he not play there at least once last season ? Just the once is hardly a ringing endorsement ... 
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| Quote chapylad="chapylad"Agree that Clarkson deserves his chance and was by far the best forward against Bulls.
He ran some good angles and tackled well.
I also think Griffin should get the nod over Kirke for this one.'"
Would agree with all of this.......but somehow, unfortunately, I think it will be McShane that misses out
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| Quote rhinoms="rhinoms"
Whatever views are we cant keep pushing JP for an hour a game he loses consistency as was proved last year play offs aside.'"
Sorry but can't agree with this. JP was easily our most consistent prop and also up with the best in SL. Apart from a wobble when he was not fully fit he put in consistent outstanding performances through out the season and not just in the play offs.
Whilst agreeing he should get some more rests, I believe that JP is a player that thrives on work rate which is a reason he has such stamina.
He cannot be compared with other lesser props who cannot keep up a performance for more than 15 minutes at a time.
I am not sure that keeping him on the bench for longer or having him rested for too many games will prolong his career. In fact this may lead to a loss of some match fitness and so some stamina and he could then just fade away.
I would prefer to see him keep playing his 110% game until his time to retire.
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