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Quote: Fetlar "Which club was that then, I wonder....
No, really, which SL club did he want to sign for?

I know he wanted to go to OZ but not another SL club.

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Quote: Sal Paradise "It could also be seen as Luke Burgess was not going to get selected for Leeds as he had decided he was going to Australia at the end of that season when his contract expired. So rather than turn up for training every day with no prospect of ever playing he took an alternative option. Again almost verging on constructive dismissal.'"


But whilst he wasn't a guaranteed starter at Leeds he was hardly playing with the kids, he was in practically every matchday 17 up until his transfer. Leeds could have made him stay and play, he could have stayed and kept on collecting his salary - that didn't happen because they came to an agreement.

Had Hock behaved in a reasonable fashion why wouldn't Wigan have acted reasonably in return? In fact they did in the first place did they not by allowing him to talk to Parramatta.

Why should Wigan let him leave just because he's changed his mind about going to Australia? Why should he be able to just ignore his contractual obligations?

You talk like clubs just ignore contracts when they want rid of a player, but that's not the case is it? They negotiate. The equivalent behaviour from Wigan would have been to refuse to let Hock train and then docking his wages for not training.

From what I've read this is a mess entirely of his own making, a flagrant attempt at manipulating/blackmailing his employers that didn't work and I have no sympathy for him. Having been given a barely deserved second chance by a club that he so badly let down he's shown no loyalty or respect to the club, his team mates or his fans (unless Wigan's comments are libellous, which I doubt) and I struggle to understand how people are defending him.

He's determined to flush his talent down the toilet and that's one endeavour I personally wish him luck with.

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Quote: Damo-Leeds "
Quote: Damo-Leeds "Hock displays an awful degree of self entitlement and shows little appetite to earn things. Can't see why Damo would empathize with those traits.'"

I was going to let this low blow go but I might as well address it.

Entitlement works both ways.

In the case of Gareth Hock, Wigan have displayed the most awful degree of self entitlement and have shown very little appetite to earn the right for Mr Hock to play with them in 2013. Forced labor is illegal and was akin to slavery the last time I read about it.

If Gareth Hock doesn't want to play for Widnes then he doesn't have to but it looks like he's going to give it a go which is credit to him. No credit to Wigan though who aren't giving Gareth Hock much choice in the matter and even putting rules in place where he can't even play against his contracted club.

All this vaguely reminds me of a certain user who though he was entitled some privacy with regards to his gambling addiction. He also though he was entitled to keep my £20 which he still owes me despite promises to give me MY MONEY back. Actions speak louder than words in this world!'"

Damo, you are pathetic. On the subject of the £20, all I have ever heard is you bring it up, then said poster offer to pay you in various ways, then you turn him down. Mentioning him having a gambling addiction is a low blow, whether its true or not.

You're entitled to your opinions on matters on this board, but airing your dirty laundry in public is not on.

I have lost any respect I ever had for you, which was very little in the first place

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Quote: G1 "You were saying Leeds were some benevolent entity that allowed players to avoid contractual obligations. I was merely demonstrating that was not the case.

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Harris is an intersting example, did Leeds not allow him to quit part way through his extended contract to go and play Union?
He had 1-2 years left as I remember yet he was allowed to go do something else - for a fee. Some players released from contracts recently you could say we didn't want, but the club captain?

He didn't want to play for us anymore and he was let go part way through a contract. No different to Hock not wanting to play for Wigan.

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Quote: The Eagle "Damo, you are pathetic. On the subject of the £20, all I have ever heard is you bring it up, then said poster offer to pay you in various ways, then you turn him down. Mentioning him having a gambling addiction is a low blow, whether its true or not.

You're entitled to your opinions on matters on this board, but airing your dirty laundry in public is not on.

I have lost any respect I ever had for you, which was very little in the first place'"

That said user has also mentioned on these boards that he hasn't spoke to me months at a time. I haven't turned this said user down - he can give back my money on MY TERMS.

If Wigan are entitled to have their terms with Gareth Hock then surely I'm entitled to have my terms with this said user?

You all saw how this said user reacted he couldn't have things on his terms. Now just imagine what poor Gareth Hock is going through.

I can live with the fact that you've lost any respect you had for me. Well hopefully others can live with the fact that I've lost any respect what I've had for Wigan which was little in the first place!

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I think we'll end Damo's little trolling session here. Unfortunately he just can't help but get personal.

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