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Quote: tad rhino "I was having a bit of fun with dippy but on a serious note I agree with the crowd behaviour. It must be nice to go to a big game and not worry about drunks or fighting. However the game itself has not improved in 30 years. It's dull, unimaginative and boring as he'll to watch.'"


That, in my opinion, is complete nonsense. The game has benefited hugely from turning professional.

The standard of handling, offloading & tackling have all improved greatly.

Try not to allow your hatred of Union to manifest itself into such silly comments.

I suppose International RL has come on leaps and bounds in recent years?

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Quote: DHM "Except there were 45 seconds left when SA got round to kicking off and England hadn't been able to manage anything resembling what was needed for the previous 79 minutes and 15 seconds. A no brainer - kick to the corner and catch and drive 5 yards for a winning 5 points. Robshaw f*****d up - simple as that.'"


While I'd have also kicked to the corner, the penalty kicked and re-gather from the re-start to hopefully work a position to attempt a field-goal was also a workable option - perhaps even the higher percentage option as it didn't require getting across the line with ball in hand.

As previously stated I'm only a casual viewer but time remaining (it appears to me) is not altogether critical as they seem to play on to the next infringement or the ball being kicked out of play before ending the tedium and that coud take forever.

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Quote: tvoc "While I'd have also kicked to the corner, the penalty kicked and re-gather from the re-start to hopefully work a position to attempt a field-goal was also a workable option - perhaps even the higher percentage option as it didn't require getting across the line with ball in hand.

As previously stated I'm only a casual viewer but time remaining (it appears to me) is not altogether critical as they seem to play on to the next infringement or the ball being kicked out of play before ending the tedium and that coud take forever.'"


It was chucking it down with rain, England hadn't been able to string 3 phases together the whole match without fumbling (neither had SA to be fair) and SA were tackling England backwards at the time. SA were going to kick deep and then could afford to infringe as much as they wanted as there wouldn't have been time for England to take a lineout from any penalty kick. Farrell and Robshaw between them had already turned down a kick at goal 4 or 5 minutes earlier from just inside the SA half, bang infront of the posts - again - a really poor choice, and suggesting that in the conditions (it was truly awful) Farrell needed to be close to the posts even for a place kick. He would have needed to be 25 out, band infront for a reasonable drop attempt.
Literally 80,000 people in the ground were screeming for England to kick to the corner. Even in perfect conditions moving the ball 70 metres after the end of the match and then dropping a goal is a miracle play. Catch and drive from 5 yards out is much higher percentage. I'd rather be on the SA line with the ball trying to score a try after the hooter, than 70 yards away trying to drop a goal.
He f****d up and made the wrong call. He'll learn from it though, he's a quality player. Anyway, all meaningless now, beat the All Blacks and nothing else matters.

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Quote: DHM "It was chucking it down with rain, England hadn't been able to string 3 phases together the whole match without fumbling (neither had SA to be fair) and SA were tackling England backwards at the time. SA were going to kick deep and then could afford to infringe as much as they wanted as there wouldn't have been time for England to take a lineout from any penalty kick.'"


Was the re-start kicked deep by South Africa after the successful penalty? I didn't think it was which I thought looked odd at the time.

So are you saying that unlike in League conceding a penalty doesn't extend the play beyond the eighty minutes?

What a peculiar sport.

Quote: DHM "Anyway, all meaningless now, beat the All Blacks and nothing else matters.'"


It appears so.

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Quote: tvoc "So are you saying that unlike in League conceding a penalty doesn't extend the play beyond the eighty minutes?

What a peculiar sport.

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No, the game does carry on - you can tap and go forever after the clock has expired, but if you chose to kick the ball out of play then it's a re-start, and that happens to be a lineout with throw in to the team who kicked the ball "dead".
However, as a lienout is considered a "contest" there has to be time on the clock for it to take place - so you actually have to check with the ref if there is time to have the lineout before you kick a penalty dead. You can't do this once the clock has expired - you can only tap a penalty and run with it.

It is still a peculiar sport though.

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Quote: tigertot "Despite playing yawnion at school & watching it before I got into rugby I am now completely unable to watch a game. When I see the highlights on the news or sports reviews I never fail to be astounded at the lack of technique in attack & defence.'"

Snap.
It does make it easy for the BBc to show the highlights on the news though.
They just show the try (if there was one) or the winning penalty.

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