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| Quote Gotcha="Gotcha"No we have had one championship, which is reality, so thank you for your incorrect statement.
And I can at least take some credit in that win against the odds, been one of the people prepared to speak truthfully and realistically, that gave the club and players the motivation to to try and prove the likes wrong.
Had everybody posted the same as the self righteous know nothing's, last year would never have happened.'"
You did play brilliant in that final.
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| Quote BrisbaneRhino="BrisbaneRhino"Just because we didn't lose the game in the first half but rather the second doesn't change the fact that we were really outclassed at times. The way the score went happens in RL a lot - outmatched team struggles to compete and stays in the game for a while, but then falls away when the better team turns up the heat.
The threequarters are the least of our worries. The pack almost to a man is average without any linebreaking ability whatsoever (I suspect opposition coaches of half-decent teams barely need to worry about tries being scored up the middle from short range, we simply have no punch at all). We already have too many chiefs even before McGuire comes back, but bizarrely even with so many 'playmakers' look to have absolutely no clue near the line against a committed defence. Our defence was back to its 2010 sieve-like worst for long periods, with no control over the tackle at all.
I doubt a really good coach would make much difference, as the 'surgery' that needs to be done is fairly major IMO - we're 2 or 3 CLASS forwards shy at the moment.
Added to the above, picking a centre on the bench (and a decidedly average bench at that) with the plan to move one of the threequarters is bonkersville. we would also have been far better served with a Clarkson type forward adding mobility at 13 than a prop who simply looked all at sea as to what his role was supposed to be. The responsibility for those sorts of decisions and the lack of structure and rubbish defence belong to the coach.'"
For 70 minutes the only try we had scored was up the middle from short range. |
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| Quote Juan Cornetto="Juan Cornetto"Correct and you called it before the game. The selection showed that Brian McD did have a clear and valid game plan. He knew he was going against the top form side in SL and without one of his key attackers (two if you include Webb) and maybe with a doubt about Burrow. So a plan, to hold the in form Warrington for the first 30 minutes then bring on a back and move Ablett into the back row to play a more expansive game, seems logical to me. Two factors changed that... firstly the downpour came just after we had taken the lead and when Keinhorst was due on, and then in the second half some players committed hari kari and gifted Warrington possession and field position at the most crucial stage in the game. Both outside the coaches control.
Despite the poor form of 4 of our 5 props and their lack of go forward, we still managed to be in the game until our discipline problem. On the day we lost to the better side...this is what happens in sport. But I maintain we were not disgraced or humiliated like we were in 2010. So IMO not the coaches fault.?
Yes we need some new recruits which the coach I am sure is aware of, but in this game he had to play with the hand he had been dealt. Had Warrington lost Briers, Hodgson or Monaghan to injury 2 weeks before the game they too would have not been as effective on attack.'"
The selection was a joke.
I'm almost certain there was no plan to bring Keinhorst on after 30 minutes. If there was then the loss of Jonesy made it even easier to get him on and it was still decided not to.
The weather almost gave us a chance but to give McDermott an excuse because of it is ludicrous |
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| Quote G1="G1"Yes, you got what you deserved, sadly the players didn't. You don't deserve to support this team.
So, do you want to replace the threequarterline from yesterday, if they're "done"? You want to replace Ward?
Let's just replace fans like you who haven't got a fekkin clue what they're on about.'"
The players are the only ones who could have affected a change to Saturday's result. The fact that they were comprehensively outplayed is hardly the fault of the fans. The players tried as hard as the could sadly to man they under performed. Giving away silly penalties at crucial times - who is to blame for that the fans?
This team has delivered some great performances when it has really mattered Saturday was not one of them - as fans are we supposed say everything is fine? If you dare to fairly criticise you are not deserving, Gotcha's post is barmy but so is that notion of yours.
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going to be controversial here but i don't think mcguire would have made a e of difference.
we were always on the back foot, our pack were handed there s and he wouldn't have had the chance to shine
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| Quote tad rhino="tad rhino"going to be controversial here but i don't think mcguire would have made a poop of difference.
we were always on the back foot, our pack were handed there s and he wouldn't have had the chance to shine'"
We looked clueless when we did have an opportunity near their line plus with Burrow not being 100% we only had one kicker as a result he was easy to shut down. |
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i really don't think it would have mattered mate. i love mcguire to bits but we simply weren't good enough
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| Quote tad rhino="tad rhino"i really don't think it would have mattered mate. i love mcguire to bits but we simply weren't good enough'"
I agree about us not being good enough - I struggle to see how we will close that gap but then I thought that last year. |
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| Quote tad rhino="tad rhino"going to be controversial here but i don't think mcguire would have made a poop of difference.
we were always on the back foot, our pack were handed there s and he wouldn't have had the chance to shine'"
Early in the game McGuire may have made a difference,Peacock made two breaks and it's normally McGuire on his shoulder,unfortunately no one else was there to back him up.He would also have been another kicking option but playing behind a pack that was battered doesn't help. |
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McGuire would have taken the pressure of sinfield and is by the far the most creative player we have attacking the line.
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Not saying we would have won because Warrington played really well
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