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Quote: Andy R "We all quite rightly laud Watkins going forward but his defensive positioning is shocking, hence Wire targeting him & scoring at will down that side. By no means the finished article & potentially another Chev'"


His handling is way better than Walker's ever was. He is also a more elusive runner I think. He probably isn't quite as strong in the tackle but the biggest problem he has is picking the right man when defending. He seems to get confused & flat footed all the time. I actually thought he looked better earlier in the year when we defended with a half back (McGuire I think) & Sinfield outside him at times so he was 4th in. It involved less decision making. Kev is struggling defensively - I thought he should have got underneath Waterhouse. Our right side defence has been a problem for about 3/4 years now - another which hasn't been rectified.'"


Could all be resolved if Watkins played on the left , potential to be one of the best centres in the world if Leeds played him on the left. Saying that he was badly let down by his inside men today , Leeds back row is a major problem area in defence.

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Quote: Tyke's/Rhinos No. 1 Fan "McDermott deserves credit. Since 2010 (hammered in the cup final, out in the playoff semis) we have reached every final available to us'"

This is correct, but it's worth pointing out that the route to the two CC Finals have involved comfortable home draws against whipping boy SL rabble teams. When it counted in the CC Finals themselves against superior opposition, they were found wanting. The route to winning the GF last year also involved easy fixtures against two whipping SL boy rabble teams. To McDermott's credit, Leeds won the tough games that counted... Warrington away, St Helens in the GF and the win in the WCC against Manly. All the rest has been dross for the most part.

Quote: Tyke's/Rhinos No. 1 Fan "maintained league position'"

This is incorrect because prior to McDermott's arrival as coach, Leeds were an established Top 4 club on the regular season ladder. This is no longer the case as finishing in the Top 4 is now a struggle for them.

Quote: Tyke's/Rhinos No. 1 Fan "with an ageing squad and top players not replaced'"

Correct.

Quote: Tyke's/Rhinos No. 1 Fan "against other teams who have improved drastically'"

Disagree. Warrington have arguably improved drastically in recent years but that's from a position of heavy investment in the squad from a position of being one of the rabble SL teams. Wigan improved under McGuire but have since stalled, St Helens and Leeds have declined sharply over the past couple of seasons. The rest aren't worth talking about... they are pitiful opposition for the most part and not serious contenders.

Quote: Tyke's/Rhinos No. 1 Fan "Since 2010, we have lost'"

Has it? Results and performances during the regular season during McDermott's tenure suggest this is not the case, particularly against the top SL clubs - one win, one draw and ten defeats. However, I do think he's taken over at a time when the squad was already in decline and he hasn't benefited from the luxury of any serious investment in the squad. The CEO appears somewhat reluctant to invest in the squad but this policy may well change dramatically should Leeds fail miserably in the play-offs and season ticket sales next year suffer accordingly.

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Quote: William Eve "This is correct, but it's worth pointing out that the route to the two CC Finals have involved comfortable home draws against whipping boy SL rabble teams. '"


I wouldn't put Wigan at Huddersfield in this year's CC Semi-Final in that category although I note your later comment that you see Wigan stalling post Maguire.

I think they've missed Richards and Leuluai when injured this year but if they are both available for the play-offs I'd still expect to see them contest the GF with Warrington.

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Quote: William Eve "it's worth pointing out... '"


It really, really wasn't.

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As usual tvoc, spot on.

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Quote: El Diablo "It really, really wasn't.'"

It's always worth pointing out.

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