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| My Leeds mate who was just behind us said 'Just so long as Briers doesn't get the Lance Todd!'
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| Quote Ouzo="Ouzo"I'm yet to see both the briers knock on or the no try incidents back on the tv so can only go off what I could see at the game so i may be wrong. The briers incident coming so soon after the no try was critical and iirc Warrington scored off the next two sets following the knock on. I'll have a look today but I didn't see a knock on from Kylie and briers did appear to knock on. Having said that though you have to ride above decisions you feel went against you and there's no excuse for a supposed champion side letting their heads drop.'"
Spot on, except I thought the no try was correct. Kylie touched the ball & once he did Delaney who was in front had to be judged offside, regardless of whether you would would class it as a knock on or not.
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| Are we all sure of the knock-on rule on here???....I think, and I stress that its I think, its where the ball lands and not where a ball rolls off to, that is the key point.
With this in mind, it isn't a knock-on, simple as.....The ball lands about 2 foot behind where Briers originally fields the ball and then it rolls forward about 6 foot.
We probably need a quick review of the rulebook to sort this out, then we can all stop quibbling.... 
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| Therefore the Wire player who picked it up was offside!
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| Quote Dita's Slot Meter="Dita's Slot Meter"Are we all sure of the knock-on rule on here???....I think, and I stress that its I think, its where the ball lands and not where a ball rolls off to, that is the key point.
With this in mind, it isn't a knock-on, simple as.....The ball lands about 2 foot behind where Briers originally fields the ball and then it rolls forward about 6 foot.
We probably need a quick review of the rulebook to sort this out, then we can all stop quibbling....
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Agree to a certain extent. It is the trajectory the ball takes from Briers that is the issue. The BBC post match demonstrated the ball went straight up and then floated backwards, hit the ground, and rolled forward. Technically correct decision to play on......BUT how many times do you see a player lose the ball sideways and its given because when it hits the ground it rolls forward. Infact, Leeds got the scrum for a "first offence" knock on for the (correctly) ruled out try BUT, did Hodgson actually lose it forwards.
In relation to the Briers incident I can see why it was called back BUT its one of those if it wasnt given you could see why. In slow-mo, yep, penalty. I think if Briers had just stood still then he might have got the call BUT he planted himself prepared to be hit by Hall.
Some bad calls in all directs yesterday so I dont think the outcome would have been different.
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| Quote AJC="AJC"Therefore the Wire player who picked it up was offside!'"
Didn't the collecting Wire player come from behind briers though ?
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| Quote Lawrie L="Lawrie L"it didn't go back
clear knock on'"
Take off your blue and amber specs.
The BBC reviewed the incident at the end of the game with super-imposed lines through where Briers played the ball and where it landed.
It went backwards by a good 2 or 3 feet, then bounced forwards, to be in front of Briers. That is not a knock on.
The player then taking the ball came from behind Briers, so not offside either.
It's a shame, but Leeds were nowhere near good enough on the day and trying to hang the defeat on 2 incidents (the no-try), is a bit embarrassing really.
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| The 'standing still' rule only applies if they are stood still at the time of the the kick - ie chip & chase. Running into a position to stand still is a different matter. There's also a rule that you must make an attempt to challenge for the ball in a high kick. Correct decision either way
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| It wasn't just obstruction though, Briers deliberately lent into Hall, while Hall was in mid air challenging for the ball. That's a tackle in the air, i.e. a dangerous tackle, and is not only a penalty to Leeds but a yellow card to Briers.
Similarly, Wood punching Ablett with 20 mins gone. The rules very clearly state that striking is a red card.
Oh, yeah, and Briers knocked on.
I think playing 60 minutes with 12 men, and 10 minutes with 11 men, might have swung the game away from Warrington.
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| Quote Tyke's/Rhinos No. 1 Fan="Tyke's/Rhinos No. 1 Fan"It wasn't just obstruction though, Briers deliberately lent into Hall, while Hall was in mid air challenging for the ball. That's a tackle in the air, i.e. a dangerous tackle, and is not only a penalty to Leeds but a yellow card to Briers.
Similarly, Wood punching Ablett with 20 mins gone. The rules very clearly state that striking is a red card.
Oh, yeah, and Briers knocked on.
I think playing 60 minutes with 12 men, and 10 minutes with 11 men, might have swung the game away from Warrington.'"
Every tackle in the air is not a yellow card. And for it to be a tackle in the air he would have to attempt to tackle him. It was a clear penalty for obstruction and nothing more.
As for sending someone off for throwing a punch. We either do this all the time or not at all. As it clearly hasn't happened up until now Silverwood looks silly if he sends him off there. I'd quite like to see a rule brought in where anyone who throws punches is sin binned to bring a bit of consistency.
You sound a bit desperate here though!
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| Radford on Bailey, Bailey & O'Donnell on each other....it's simple, either it happens or it doesn't. As far as I'm concerned, a punch is a deliberate attempt to injure another player so they cannot continue playing. It doesn't happen accidentally, or in 'the heat of the moment' and should be a straight red card.
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