I agree, Leeds have turned up in big semi's and finals (including last years CC) and either won or gone down with a real fight in the last 10 year to give me hope for Saturday.

The very first thing a guy said to me on the way out of the Keepmoat last season was "What will Wigan do to us?". I found that pretty embarrassing to be honest and didn't hesitate to tell him to just bloody enjoy himself and let the players worry about the final.

That's probably not far wrong.

There's always the possibility though, they don't emerge from their slumber and hit form, which i wouldn't bet against either.

Glad to see not everybody is mistaking cause and effect when it comes to Leeds winning from 5th last year. BM was spot on when he argued that if anything it ought to give everyone more hope. If all 8 teams really give it their all in the Play Offs, the crowds would start to come back IMO.

I reckon we should only lose one game from the league run-in, that being away at Catalans. All the others we should expect to come away with 2pts from, which would leave us on 36 points.

The only game I'd expect Catalans to drop is away at Hull, which would finish them on 40 points.

I'd bet on Wigan dropping the games against Wire & St helens, leaving them on 42 points,

I'd expect Saints to drop the games away at Catalans & home to Wire, leaving them on 36 points.

Lastly, I'd expect Warrington to win all their games till season end, which would leave them on 43 points.

So the top of the table would look like

1. Warrington 43pts
2. Wigan 42pts
3. Catalans 40pts
4. Leeds/St Helens 36pts
5. Leeds/St Helens 36pts
6. Hull FC 34pts
7. Bradford 29pts
8. Huddersfield 26pts
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9. Hull KR 25pts

I also reckon that our loss in France will be substantial, and that Saints will be tight. So I'm placing them ahead of us on PD, so we'd finish 5th, again.

Playoffs-Round 1

Warrington v Saints, Warrington Win
Wigan v Catalans, Catalans Win
Leeds v Huddersfield, Leeds Win
Hull FC v Bradford, Bradford Win

Round 2

Saints v Leeds, Saints win
Catalans v Hull FC, Catalans win

Round 3

Warrington v Catalans, Catalans Win
Wigan v St Helens, Wigan Win

Grand Final

Wigan beat Catalans.

Catalans won't make the GF imo it willbe between either Leeds ,Wigan ,ST's and Wire.

Bradford are getting away without a points deduction?

You do realise that this post is completely pointless dont you? Just checking...

I think that's his speciality isn't it?

you clearly need to spend your vast ammount of spare time more wisely by getting some new songs for your band to sing in the SS


you've got the whole seasons scenario sorted out already and there's still 7 rounds to go?

at least we're on the same wave length here as as i also believe that only one of those 4 sides can win this years grand final.
clearly if wigan and warrington don't bottle it yet again this season then surely they are both favourites to not only to reach the grand final but also the challenge cup final too
however i would never ever write off either the saints or the rhino's in spoiling those 2 clubs party parade celebrations

Come on now, it's pointless even attempting to predict the final placings for top 8 and then how the top 8 will pan out from there, theres simply way too much water to pass under the bridge.

It simply doesn't allow for the element of chance and the crazy, unpredictable events sports can sometimes throw up.

Even when you have an idea of form going into the games. Last year you'd have predicted a warrington wigan final before the playoiffs. Neither even made it.