Rhinoms – When have I questioned your loyalty? When have I told you how to support the Club? Quote me. I haven’t either ignored people’s comments – I’ve been more than fair in replying to most, often repeating myself; just because I don’t agree doesn’t mean that I’m ignoring people.

I go to all the games, same as you, and I have commented many times that the performances of late have not been good enough. I think my comments regarding the good games we’ve played this year are fair and provide some balance. I haven’t once said anyone should not criticise because of the good games we’ve played, but I do think we need some balance. I agree that it would be good to give some of the young lads a go, but as I’ve repeated loads in this forum, we need to ensure that we time this for their benefit too. I have discussed above that I think we were right to loan out Liam Hood (who I assume you are talking about). Shaun Lunt will be the same age now that Brett Delaney was when he moved to the second row from the centre – as I say earlier, this was a good move by Mac. I don’t say it will work out for Lunt in any other position but while he’s here, we might as well see where we can play him.

To be honest rhinoms, I’m getting really tired of replying to you – I’m trying to have a fair debate here and have been more than fair in addressing most people’s comments to me; I haven’t ignored fair points and arguments, been rude to anyone, questioned anyone’s loyalty, told them how to support the Club, or said anyone is wrong for having a different opinion to mine. I’m having to repeat myself time and time again to you so either you aren’t reading my responses, or you are, but you just don’t like my opinion and can only keep telling me I’m ignoring you and telling you what to do. If I don’t agree, I don’t agree, but I’m not going to keep replying to you when you keep telling me I’m saying and doing things which I’m clearly not. I’ve been fair to this point but won’t spend any more time replying to you.

To be honest its nice to have a positive poster on here. I'm kind of split on the subject though, i think while McDermott needs to be questioned for the performance (opposite to what the OP thinks) i agree with him that the criticism shouldn't go into abuse territory. Healthy and non-too-personal criticism is ok, going onto booing during games, name calling and disrespectful comments i think is unnecessary.

I believe Swiftcorn got a bit of a ban following an argument on the VT with an Aussie about Aussie Rules Football and claiming he knew Australia better than a guy who lives there. Don't know if it applies to here though but his absence is greatly appreciated.

Quote: Gotcha "Come on folks. This is another AP/Keith alias. Don't get sucked in.'" It's not really a case of getting sucked in, as others have commented it's remained a civil discussion. I've always been notoriously poor at identifying the men behind the 'characters' but agree it's likely to be one of the regulars. Either way it's provided an outlet for some frustration. Will it change anyone's view - I doubt it. rhinowinorlose probably still thinks Henry Paul wasn't replaced at the Harlequins and that he was always a leading role model off the field : news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 038590.stm I'm guessing the Quins were just grateful he wasn't the chauffeur driver behind the wheel of that Mercedes S280.

Quote: Gotcha "Come on folks. This is another AP/Keith alias. Don't get sucked in.'" It's not really a case of getting sucked in, as others have commented it's remained a civil discussion. I've always been notoriously poor at identifying the men behind the 'characters' but agree it's likely to be one of the regulars. Either way it's provided an outlet for some frustration. Will it change anyone's view - I doubt it. rhinowinorlose probably still thinks Henry Paul wasn't replaced at the Harlequins and that he was always a leading role model off the field : news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 038590.stm I'm guessing the Quins were just grateful he wasn't the chauffeur driver behind the wheel of that Mercedes S280.

Agreed. It's a discussion forum, this is a discussion. Does seem to wind a few people up though - not sure why.

I think in short they players have to take the criticism for the way they play and they shouldn't be exempt from criticism but equally the manager has to take some blame for the standard of play and tactics used in the game.