Well, I might as well tell you now. Most of the current Rhinos lot may all be internationals who have won five SL titles and 3 WCC's. But as far as I'm concerned, the first thing they can do for me is to chuck all their rings and all their caps and all their pots and all their pans into the biggest f***ing dustbin they can find, because they've never won any of them by being any good. They've done it all by being bloody ordinary.

Schoey by plenty - a world class player but more importantly, a world class international player - the primary yardstick for measuring any players world class credentials.

Its nice to be important......

He has spoken the truth

Whats your problem?

It wasn't a shellacking in that 3rd test but they were well beaten in the end 14-0.


They were closer in 1992 down under. Lost the 1st Test 6-22, won the 2nd Test 33-10 (masterminded by Schofield) and were edged out in the decider 16-10 (another great Schofield performance). I still haven't forgotten ET's try-saving tackle on Martin Offiah.

Since Schofield's international retirement, we've been nowhere near to beating the Australians in an Ashes Series or any other tournament for that matter. In fact, since Schofield's retirement, we've endured the heaviest defeats in our international history, like 64-10, 44-4, 52-4, 46-16... etc... Peacock played in all of those.

I was there (as were probably a lot of guys on here) It was p!$$ wet that day. Suited the Australians and their ball control game better than GB, and still it was tight until they broke through on our left while Carl Gibson off the field injured. We were down to 12 men at the time. After that we just couldn't get into the game and control the ball enough in the wet to exert pressure on them.
Pressure in the end got to GB, not surprising as the hangover from '82 and '86 must have been a killer. Our chance was in the second test, and unlike on any other occaision since, GB very nearly took it.

I agree with the comments above, two Ashes series revolved around small incidents at Old Trafford 1990 and Brisbane 1992, even the 1992 World Cup final was nip and tuck all the way through and came down to one slip by Alan Hunte that let Renouf in and made the difference.

When you think about the cricket Ashes 2005 and England winning by 2 runs at Edgbaston in a game that could easily have gone the other way and England been 2-0 down and no way back, those rugby Ashes in the early 1990s could have led to a very different history, GB could have won back to back Ashes had a bit of luck gone their way in key moments.

I do think the Aussies were the better team though, as they showed by beating us convincingly in some of the Tests, but we were close enough that we could have won. I still think that era was the golden age of rugby league, from around 1988 to 1995, in terms of who was playing the game and the amount of greats. More recently there has been a golden age in Australia with all the superb outside backs that have been produced but the game has never been as well balanced with legends in both hemispheres as it was back then.

I agree we were close in 92. Still a 2-1 series defeat however you cut it. How many of those have there been since 1992? In fact 2-1 to Australia was the result of 5 consecutive Ashes series betweebn1988 and 2001 wasn't it?

Schofield won 1 series against the Kiwis didn't he, just like Burrow who won man of the series?

New to this thread but I suspect some anti Schofield bias and some pro Burrow blinkers.



Schofield was in possession of far more skills than the still redoubtable little fella you champion. Schofield was a pleasure to watch and kept me coming to Headingley more than any other. The fact that Kirke for example has gained more winners medals than one of the games's legends is one of the cruel ironies of sport.

How can there be bias in the cold hard facts I posted?

Isn't that an oxymoron

schoey was a world class poacher centre
was he an international class stand off , not sure

was the 93 semi against widnes rumours abounded about dressing room fights

he may be a rent a gob but hardly controversial to say the present side is too old and playing e. The wigan side is not as class as past ones but very well coached.