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Quote: Famous "I think for a club the size of Leeds, with the resources at their disposal, nearly all of the above is unacceptable. Most of the above can be rectified quite easily with the correct off field appointments and structures. What you illustrate above is exactly what Michael Maguire changed when he first came to Wigan and it was fundamental to us winning the Grand Final in his first year with much the same squad. Indeed those sound footings are fundamental to how we are doing now, Wane has just built upon it.'"


This basically.

What I cannot take is the poor discipline in the games and the lack of commitment from some players. You should have to earn the right to wear the jersey, some of the players seem to think its theirs for the given.

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If Leeds were to win SL again this season from 5th/6th position after regularly playing rubbish/poorly for most of the season, would you be prepared to reconsider that statement above?'"


No. Ask one of your SL whipping boy rabble supporters how many trophies they win by being crap every year or even any Leeds fan old enough to remember pre 2004.

Anyway, you always think whoever wins Stuporleague is rubbish, it's a rubbish competition.

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Quote: The Eagle "Personally I think that the approach of easing off during the season to save yourself for the business end is the correct strategy. Since our poor tail offs in 2005 & 2006, we have succeeded in all but 1 of the last 5 grand finals. However, I think the balance last year and this year is wrong. I don't for one minute believe that the club has targeted to finish 7th or 8th. I'm not bothered about the LLS. Without the Sl trophy along side it, its meaningless. But I do expect us to be at least competitive with our rivals during the season. I think the fans are being a little short changed.'"


Why do people think we are easing off as part of some great masterplan come playoff time? If we were easing off thinking of September/October time then why are we playing the same guys week-in week-out, the likes of Peacock & Delaney look knackered and still not given a rest. The team selection hardly smacks of a saving ourselves for later philosophy. We are losing because we are playing poor not because of some saving it for later plan.

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Another difference this year is that there's not going to be an easy off-form Huddersfield away game in the middle of the playoff run.

Wherever we come 5th-8th, the first game will be winnable. Hull away would be the hardest, otherwise it'd likely be Huddersfield or Hull KR. Not certain wins, but games Leeds should win *if they're on playoff form*.

But then it would likely be St.Helens away then Wigan away to get to the Grand Final, and it's bloody hard to imagine managing that.

There are a lot of reasons why doing it from outside the top four last year was unusual, but a fixture list of Hull(h) Hudds(a) Warrington(a) rather than Hull(a) Saints(a) Wigan(a) was one of them.

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Quote: DHM "No. Ask one of your SL whipping boy rabble supporters how many trophies they win by being crap every year or even any Leeds fan old enough to remember pre 2004.'"

I wasn't aware Leeds were whipping boy SL rabble.

Aren't they genuine contenders who (if they were to win SL again this year) will be proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that it is possible to be rubbish (strategic or otherwise) for the most part and still win silverware?

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Quote: ThePrinter "Personally I think that the approach of easing off during the season to save yourself for the business end is the correct strategy. Since our poor tail offs in 2005 & 2006, we have succeeded in all but 1 of the last 5 grand finals. However, I think the balance last year and this year is wrong. I don't for one minute believe that the club has targeted to finish 7th or 8th. I'm not bothered about the LLS. Without the Sl trophy along side it, its meaningless. But I do expect us to be at least competitive with our rivals during the season. I think the fans are being a little short changed.'"


Why do people think we are easing off as part of some great masterplan come playoff time? If we were easing off thinking of September/October time then why are we playing the same guys week-in week-out, the likes of Peacock & Delaney look knackered and still not given a rest. The team selection hardly smacks of a saving ourselves for later philosophy. We are losing because we are playing poor not because of some saving it for later plan.'"

Because I have seen this team peak when it matters many times over the last few years. The difference in intensity between the WCC and the loss against Bradford only a few weeks later is marked. If it was just form these bad games would appear in key games as well. Over the last few years the only key game I have seen perform the way they are at the moment is during the CC final, otherwise they have been bang on in games that matter for the last 5 years, even if they didn;t end up winning all of them

I agree some players look knackered, and if I were trying to save something back for the end of the season I would rotate my squad better both on match day, and week to week.

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