"Wlliams" isn't. Rather irrelevant point.

Absolutely agree about the props.
But I have a nagging doubt we wont be bringing either of them back.
The same probably could be said for McShane who should not have been loaned out in the first place.
As for Williams no thanks.
Stick with Chisholm and BJB.

Neither 'signing' would move us forward much to be honest. Like many I think our problems lie in the pack.

I can't see Chase coming in unless someone like Burrow or McGuire moves on. I'd prefer a more organising half like Dobson, who can control the game & put some structure in place. Chase is another headless chicken, who is great against a broken or retreating defensive line, but ineffective when the pack is being bested. I'm not sure who that player would be though as really we should be looking at Kev's long term replacement.

I think the coaching style needs to be looked at first, whether that means moving BMD on or not. We have to adapt our game plan to get the best out of our squad. Sure, some new faces will help, but I think the approach is wrong. We are too off the cuff, and the players aren't where they were 3 or 4 years ago when even then it was hit and miss

I agre with all this. Even though I think Chase is a special player and very good to watch, I just can't see him fitting in here. I believe a good organising scrum half and Ward outside him would be an ideal way to go forward. With Sinfield at loose.





I dissagree with parts of this. We are as far away from "off the cuff" this year as Ireland is to New Zealand. Our play is plodding and predictable. The only time we ever look a threat is when our play turns to a few offloads. We are constantly playing one man rugby with our props. Props that but for one make very little yardage, and that one is really doing far too much. Our backrowers show no signs of moving a ball on, and again just run into the tackle.

Yep I'd agree with that Gotcha. The problem also being in that we offload very rarely too. We are sort of in the worst of both worlds at the moment in that we are slow and predictable but also aren't building any sort of pressure. I could deal with the slow predictable game if we were forcing extra sets at the end but we're trying to score on every set instead.

The David Williams one I believe as I heard that a long time ago and mentioned on here, but the Rangi Chase one is a new one to me.

Doubt he'll be interesting the Leeds CEO in that case.

Will be interesting to see what happens with Williams, could be a good signing if he stays injury free!

I think Williams will be a good signing. Manly supporters rate him and do not want him to leave the club.Can he also play fullback?

I'm not sure on the Chase rumour and any other players that GH might be interested in signing.