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Quote: Old Feller "Someone I know who actually went to the game said that Ah Van got MoM.
Not checked on the Widnes site to verify , but I have read that McShane put through the kick for Cross to score.
The irony of that made me smile.'"



That's true, but it could have been any from Hanbury, Cahill, McShane or Cross IMO.

McShane gave us some much needed control and speed around the ruck and we did look a little lost when he went off for a rest.

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I went to watch Broncos vs Widnes on Saturday - one of the lads I coached at 15 and 16 was making his home debut. McShane put some nice kicks in from dummy half, passed OK, didn't run much. He got run over badly a couple of times in defence - flat out buried by the runner. He'll either need to get better at defending, or hidden out of the middle of the defence (as we do with Burrow and something I see happening as teams move to lightweight hookers) or teams will get at him.

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Quote: Richie "I went to watch Broncos vs Widnes on Saturday - one of the lads I coached at 15 and 16 was making his home debut. McShane put some nice kicks in from dummy half, passed OK, didn't run much. He got run over badly a couple of times in defence - flat out buried by the runner. He'll either need to get better at defending, or hidden out of the middle of the defence (as we do with Burrow and something I see happening as teams move to lightweight hookers) or teams will get at him.'"

Looking at Paul McShane's stats from his first two Widnes Vikings games he's missed 3/71 tackles and has been Widnes's second top tackler in both games so the myth about his tackling continues i guess, The evidence also doesn't seem to suggest "He got run over badly a couple of times in defence" vs London:

McShane vs Huddersfield Giants (34 Tackles & 2 Missed Tackles)
McShane vs London Broncos (37 Tackles & 1 Missed Tackle)

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Did you see the game George?

Richie - it appears from his post - did and I'd personally accept his critique of McShane's defensive contribution over the Opta counts which may or may not be accurate in any event.

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His tackling since 2011 in leeds colours has been very good. Gets stuck in. Helps when he tackles down middle as is aided with 2nd and 3rd men assisting him to down his man. He holds on for all he's got though. His defence is not an issue at all IMO.

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Quote: tvoc "Did you see the game George?

Richie - it appears from his post - did and I'd personally accept his critique of McShane's defensive contribution over the Opta counts which may or may not be accurate in any event.'"

I too would accept Richie's critique over george's reading of stats for the reasons you have said and because I am aware of his coaching credentials.

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